NorthloopCup
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Lol knew what you meant mate! Was just being a smart arse! I'll be ringing you tomorrow so let me know what times best.
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sonny172cup "track car to race car project"
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Cub.
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Good to meet you at Snet Sonny, looked to be going well 
Its wasnt warped discs, it was uneven pad deposits welded into the discs due to not bedding the pads in correctly. I rusted the discs up and stuck them on a lave to get the deposits out with emery paper and still no joy, looks like they need to be skimmed to remove the crud.
Good to meet you at Snet Sonny, looked to be going well
Likewise mate, thanks for coming over to say Hi, sorry I was sidetracked with the geo set up
Going well Sonny, bit hot into Riches at 11:50...you need AST's...lol.
Yes Pete, just a bit, bloody right hand brake locked up unsettling the car.
Yep, in hindsight i wished I uprated the front springs now but didn't want to waste any more money on that suspension set up.
Yep, in hindsight i wished I uprated the front springs now but didn't want to waste any more money on that suspension set up.
Well....this happened today :rasp:
5100, with top mounts and custom springs
These served me well.....:dead:
What do most ppl use for the rear rubber bushes, do you use the oem ones? Im using a spare set of the Spax uprated ones, will these be ok?
5100, with top mounts and custom springs
These served me well.....:dead:
What do most ppl use for the rear rubber bushes, do you use the oem ones? Im using a spare set of the Spax uprated ones, will these be ok?
Yes, impressed with everything about them to be honest, can just stare at them all day as the craftsmanship is spot on.
I'm hoping I can do a test day before Silverstone
Few pics from Snetterton 200
The inner metal sleeves was original, these just slide inside the older spax rubber bushes. The newer Spax rear metal sleeves was 1mm wider than the oem/ast so these would have rattled.
Spring rates are in trial and development stages at the mo
but they will be a race rate as this car will not see the roadYes they are very wide, the 4100 are a lot thinner. Did you go for the 4100 or 5100 Martin?
Only Sportline 1 mate (which I'm assuming is now called 4100?). It's all I could afford
If it was a race car like yours then I would have some how made up the difference in price. But I got mine from Cooksport with that good deal he was offering. Only £995. Think the 5100 are about £600 on top aren't they...
But that piston does look HUGE in your pictures lol!!
Be interesting to hear your views and opinions on the kit in comparison to what you've been using already.
yep sportline 1 are indeed 4100 and 2's are 5100. I have a feeling these will be very different
Good price that, Curtis did me a deal so cant complain
Good price that, Curtis did me a deal so cant complain
yep sportline 1 are indeed 4100 and 2's are 5100. I have a feeling these will be very different
Good price that, Curtis did me a deal so cant complain
Hopefully you'll see a massive improvement with these and will really be able to push forward with the car
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
It looks huge because what you can see in the picture is the body of the damper mate. They're actually inverted in the casing on the sportline 2's/5100. It's to reduce the flex to the bare minimum. Don't be fooled by the bullshit Martin! Lol!
Mid July update:
With the ASTs on, the next job was to remove the Wilwoods, and re installed the oem calipers, with this done I bled the front system with RBF600 (my choice of brake fluid) also I shall be ordering some DS1.11 pads again from G on payday, be interesting to see what they are like with oem calipers after racing with them in the Wilwoods.
The car is booked in with Mark Fish prior to the Silverstone weekend for a corner weight session, then the next day I shall be doing the test day (Friday 8th) at Silverstone, few jobs to do on the test day, mainly to fine tune the suspension set up, examine tyre heat/pressures due to uprated springs and obviously to get used to how the car handles. Also be a bonus to get some laps in under my belt as I have never driven the National circuit. Last time I was at Silverstone was in the RS4 in 2010 and that was on the Southern Circuit.
Race weekend at Silverstone with the Triclolre Trophy, we now have our own stand alone race then a combined Nipon race. Really looking forward to this, its just a shame we dont have the numbers for both races to be stand alone, so if your thinking of racing, come and join us. I dread to think how long the days will be with 4 stand alone races though inc the Nippons.
Timings
Saturday 9th August
Sign on 0850
Scrut 0920
Race 1 1310 (stand alone)
Race 2 1740 (combined)
Will now be a long day, however not that bothered as im sticking around for the annual TARC BBQ
With the ASTs on, the next job was to remove the Wilwoods, and re installed the oem calipers, with this done I bled the front system with RBF600 (my choice of brake fluid) also I shall be ordering some DS1.11 pads again from G on payday, be interesting to see what they are like with oem calipers after racing with them in the Wilwoods.
The car is booked in with Mark Fish prior to the Silverstone weekend for a corner weight session, then the next day I shall be doing the test day (Friday 8th) at Silverstone, few jobs to do on the test day, mainly to fine tune the suspension set up, examine tyre heat/pressures due to uprated springs and obviously to get used to how the car handles. Also be a bonus to get some laps in under my belt as I have never driven the National circuit. Last time I was at Silverstone was in the RS4 in 2010 and that was on the Southern Circuit.
Race weekend at Silverstone with the Triclolre Trophy, we now have our own stand alone race then a combined Nipon race. Really looking forward to this, its just a shame we dont have the numbers for both races to be stand alone, so if your thinking of racing, come and join us. I dread to think how long the days will be with 4 stand alone races though inc the Nippons.
Timings
Saturday 9th August
Sign on 0850
Scrut 0920
Race 1 1310 (stand alone)
Race 2 1740 (combined)
Will now be a long day, however not that bothered as im sticking around for the annual TARC BBQ
182cup & 172 racecar
Yep, see you there.
Ill be chasing you around in the 106 I reckon.
Happy days.
Ill be chasing you around in the 106 I reckon.
Happy days.
Happy days indeed, cant wait
Renault 5 gt turbo
Nice one Sonny, see you there.
We will be up Friday pm.
We will be up Friday pm.
Russ Rallye
ClioSport Club Member
How come you've gone back to standard callipers mate?
Russ
Russ
All that's required, didn't you know?
Don't forget to wave...as we lap you. Small smile through gritted teeth will do then.
182cup & 172 racecar
Pass at your peril.
Beware.
Beware.
RussRallye I miss the characteristics of the oem brakes, simple on/off breaking. The Wilwoods, you just have to be so gentle and moderate the braking, otherwise they lock up, im having to brake slightly earlier into corners which is not good, I think either the car is too light or I need wider front tyres (I run 195s) to absorb the braking effort, now I know they would benefit from a break regulator which is on my to do list.
Yes still running the the cup servo. Not a bad idea.
I have a set of 438's (Catcams) for sale covered about 1200 miles, very good condition. PM me if interested.
Just running standard ones mate in this engine. These are from my old engine that died due to a poor map. just need to free up some cash.
Something doesn't sound right, your Wilwoods should be no worse than std at least. Car not too light the lighter the better as this makes you faster everywhere (repeating what I've been told many a time). We run 205's up front have a faulty brake compensator valve tie wrapped up so a bit more braking effort goes to the rear than if it was working correctly. With the way that I brake I suspect I would have problems after 20 mins (I.E in a 40 min race) as the heat build up would be to great to shed. Can't beat the feeling\confidence of driving on fully floating AP disks and calipers but the way you brake shouldn't have to change (maybe distances) much at all between different set ups, I don't think.
I would at least find out the point each set up locks up - got a reference point then.
With the servo, are you saying you get to much force applied to the pads for the amount of pedal pressure, so a bigger dia servo would reduce this a bit?
The Wilwoods have a smaller pad area, this would mean the pad would heat up more and dependant on the compound it might actually be getting to a point where its working more effectively than with the same pad in the standard callipers. Having four pistons should give you more modulation.
I assume its your front wheels that are locking up?
I assume its your front wheels that are locking up?
