Microsoft scum - Don't even have MS Office!

[KDF]

It gets worse.. I just bought a new car.. but to my horror, it didn't come with the free garage with house attached.. WTF ?

defending MS what ever next

Stranger things have happend.. !

could just install linux most home distros come with open office

Like this for example.. you advocating linux

 

[McBunny]

i like linux im just no good with it i left 99% of my command line knowledge back with windows 3.11

 

[dk]

OpenOffice will suite most people's needs and as has been mentioned is free.

http://www.openoffice.org as well as open formats it will also open and save in MS formats (*.doc *.xls etc)

Not sure why you'd except a product that you have to pay for to come free with your laptop anyway?

Just in case you missed the few mentions about OpenOffice here you go again

You can open in .doc format which is what MS Word saves it's documents as and you can also save in .doc format.

OpenOffice is a free office suite.

a question, does it support the new office files from 2007, like the xlsx and docx i think they are, they aren't supported by 2003 so i was wondering if openoffice supports them. You can't even download a viewer from MS for them thats all.

 

[McBunny]

Just in case you missed the few mentions about OpenOffice here you go again

You can open in .doc format which is what MS Word saves it's documents as and you can also save in .doc format.

OpenOffice is a free office suite.

a question, does it support the new office files from 2007, like the xlsx and docx i think they are, they aren't supported by 2003 so i was wondering if openoffice supports them. You can't even download a viewer from MS for them thats all.

yes you can (view them in 2003 that is)

 

[McBunny]

i suppose i may as well give you the link

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...70-3AE9-4AEE-8F43-C6BB74CD1466&displaylang=en

 

[DrR]

I have office 97, 2000, 2000 dutch, and 2003

Just opened a word document in wordpad?

 

[ViolentJ]

Just in case you missed the few mentions about OpenOffice here you go again

You can open in .doc format which is what MS Word saves it's documents as and you can also save in .doc format.

OpenOffice is a free office suite.

a question, does it support the new office files from 2007, like the xlsx and docx i think they are, they aren't supported by 2003 so i was wondering if openoffice supports them. You can't even download a viewer from MS for them thats all.

Not yet, you'd have to use a converter the same as if you wanted to open them in 2003. From what I've read native support should be coming soon.

 

[dk]

i suppose i may as well give you the link

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...70-3AE9-4AEE-8F43-C6BB74CD1466&displaylang=en

i see, i just get annoyed as i keep having to convert files for the sales guys in the new format as they have 2003 whereas i have 2007.

shouldn't be a problem soon as they are getting upgraded this month but i didn't know about the compatibility pack, good addition.

Guess from what VJ is saying open office doesn't support them yet.

 

[Keydogg]

Just because many people use pcs and laptops for word processing, not everyone does. I dont use mine for any, just browsing the internet and chatting on mIRC. So therefore the company that I bought my laptop have saved me £80 for not forcing my into buying something I didn't need.

I would say the "car and wheels" analagy is perfect, because nowadays most people have alloys (office) but you don't need them to run the car, and there are those who don't car about having them.

At the end of the day its a luxury not a a requirement, and you have to pay for luxuries.

 

[fulhamfcboy]

You choose the software when you buy it. If they included MS Office in Windows Vista there would be a million and one lawsuits about how they're abusing their position in the market - the same reason they can't and will not include a full blown AV solution in their operating system.

Why is that Microsoft's fault - at times I feel for them. Kinda damned if you do and damned if you don't.

And pay for it, pirating scum. Be it one copy or one thousand, it's theft and is dealt with similarly. To be honest Microsoft have been making it easier for the home user as they know that Works is utter doo. You now get 3 machine licences for Microsoft Office Home and Student edition, and it's priced very well. Several years ago it was a couple of hundred quid for the standard version of Office with similar functionality.

exactly, in some countries they aren't even allowed to include media player or IE i think (possibly france) because of the big law suit that said they were monopolising media playing and web browsing or something.

Why should they give it away free though, when you buy a laptop you are paying for the OS, not for office so thats why you don't get it although most manufacturers now include a 60 day trial of office on pc's which gives you the chance to use it and then buy a key to unlock it if you want to keep it.

What annoys me is that big corporates pay less than joe bloggs on the street, its Joe that can;t afford to pay the ridiculous price of £400 to be able to write a letter.

So while I agree we should pay for it, i think it should be a lot cheaper to the average person.

I get a copy free from work with home user rights so i'm fine.

Apparently with Office 2007 this doesnt apply any more....I still took a copy anyway.

 

[McBunny]

exactly, in some countries they aren't even allowed to include media player or IE i think (possibly france) because of the big law suit that said they were monopolising media playing and web browsing or something.

Why should they give it away free though, when you buy a laptop you are paying for the OS, not for office so thats why you don't get it although most manufacturers now include a 60 day trial of office on pc's which gives you the chance to use it and then buy a key to unlock it if you want to keep it.

What annoys me is that big corporates pay less than joe bloggs on the street, its Joe that can;t afford to pay the ridiculous price of £400 to be able to write a letter.

So while I agree we should pay for it, i think it should be a lot cheaper to the average person.

I get a copy free from work with home user rights so i'm fine.

Apparently with Office 2007 this doesnt apply any more....I still took a copy anyway.

it does still apply if your license agreement allows it

 

[fUbAr]

LOL. Mr Merc has issues.