Here we go again..........

[DrR]

Il say this again....

Fred for up north
Rentech for down south

Bloody southerners thinking the midlands is "up north"

 

[DanFreemanPhoto]

I did laugh at that! Brum aint north FFS!

 

[Sir_Dave]

Oops. Im no mecanic, but i would assume that even when people have access to the correct locking tools, they sometimes dont use them ...

Reminds me of this pic.

 

[497adam]

Whilst naming and shaming isnt the answer, it hopefully stops new owners going to the "wrong garages" And pushes the work to the good ones, BTM, Danny, Birchdown ect

 

[497adam]

Oops. Im no mecanic, but i would assume that even when people have access to the correct locking tools, they sometimes dont use them ...

Reminds me of this pic.

That a certain garage in the northwest not using the timimg tools?

 

[Stu_350z]

Im very glad that Fred is only 20 min away from me

Wouldnt go anywhere else tbh

 

[Silent_Scone]

subtle Dave!

 

[497adam]

Would that photo imply where the car had been done wrong?

 

[Rob]

I love the hammer the best.

 

[Sam@NP]

I love the hammer the best.

I genuinely can not thing of a use for that hammer when doing a cambelt.

 

[Rob]

To bash it if it doesn't line up right, innit.

 

[Chris205]

I'm all for naming and shaming, I'd certainly want to know of people's bad experiences with places before trusting them with my pride and joy, I've trusted reviews in the past and paid the price when it all went tits up

 

[Cookson]

I actually think the hammer was to hit me with if I kept taking photos. Other than that, I also have no idea why it was there. They had done the service before the belt........ maybe something was stuck? I dunno.

In any event, the car has been fine since then, with no evidence of the timing being out (idles fine, runs clean up to the redline, still very fast). However, to satisfy the moaners on here, I am considering buying a pair of cam end covers and having the old ones out to check the timing.


Thinking on, could the hamemr be there to knock the new cam end covers back in place??

 

[Gray]

I actually think the hammer was to hit me with if I kept taking photos. Other than that, I also have no idea why it was there. They had done the service before the belt........ maybe something was stuck? I dunno.

In any event, the car has been fine since then, with no evidence of the timing being out (idles fine, runs clean up to the redline, still very fast). However, to satisfy the moaners on here, I am considering buying a pair of cam end covers and having the old ones out to check the timing.


Thinking on, could the hamemr be there to knock the new cam end covers back in place??

A hammer to 'knock in' a rubber seal?

 

[Silent_Scone]

lol! Didn't even know Rob was a moderator

 

[Cookson]

A hammer to 'knock in' a rubber seal?

Never been on a big job?

lol

 

[Chris205]

lol! Didn't even know Rob was a moderator

he's a roberator

Tbh I took a guess but seeing as it was edited I know who it was lol

 

[Rob]

I don't know if you're right either Chris, but if you are, it's not what the OP wants atm. Plus, lets be honest, it's not like there's not been enough bad press as it is.

Are you colour blind, Mr Scone?

 

[The Boosh!]

I get the impression these are easy to piss up then?

 

[sideways danny]

Thinking on, could the hamemr be there to knock the new cam end covers back in place??

A hammer to 'knock in' a rubber seal?

yes. Usually a very small one though

 

[Christopher]

Oops. Im no mecanic, but i would assume that even when people have access to the correct locking tools, they sometimes dont use them ...

Reminds me of this pic.

LOL. Classic picture.

If only you'd got a little more of the t-shirt.

 

[.Kev.]

If a specialist is going to pump out shoddy work then they should be picked up about it, how else are they going to learn or change. People avoiding them for future work will soon make them realise their slip up and sort out their standards.

Instead by not naming them, people will use them in good faith and end up with a FUBAR engine and a massive bill, all because of the "I'm not going to name them" mentality.

Sad times......:S

 

[scotty2hotty81]

LOL. Classic picture.

If only you'd got a little more of the t-shirt.

For most of the people on this forum that's enough to work it out lol

 

[Christopher]

Pretty much. Heh.

 

[Addicted]

i don't know who it is, but Fred is closest to me so it makes no odds to me i guess!

 

[Cookson]

LOL. Classic picture. If only you'd got a little more of the t-shirt.

For most of the people on this forum that's enough to work it out lol

You mean like this

 

[Fred@BTM]

If a specialist is going to pump out shoddy work then they should be picked up about it, how else are they going to learn or change. People avoiding them for future work will soon make them realise their slip up and sort out their standards.

Instead by not naming them, people will use them in good faith and end up with a FUBAR engine and a massive bill, all because of the "I'm not going to name them" mentality.

Sad times......:S

I'm not name slinging as its not the done thing, if the customer wants to "name and shame" then that's his call, but knowing this forum well it will turn into 20pages of the following

"they're great"

"no they're s**t"

"mace is sexy"

yada yada



Also from previous dealings (via customer info) they simply deny that anything is wrong, so either i'm talking out my arse or they're too arrogant to admit they can't do the job properly

 

[lee182RS]

What do you think the PM is for guys.....?

 

[Silent_Scone]

Soldier on potato man! I'll pop in Tuesday with the beers I owe you

 

[MikeB]

Oh dear.

 

[kevo66]

Looks like the timing on my 197 cams after they were fitted...... some quality work by someone there!

 

[.Kev.]

What do you think the PM is for guys.....?

David Cameron runs the country....... or at least attempts too.

 

[jenic]

If a specialist is going to pump out shoddy work then they should be picked up about it, how else are they going to learn or change. People avoiding them for future work will soon make them realise their slip up and sort out their standards.

Instead by not naming them, people will use them in good faith and end up with a FUBAR engine and a massive bill, all because of the "I'm not going to name them" mentality.

Sad times......:S

But if they are cheaper than everyone else they will still get loads of business.

A lot of people don't read about the problems and just go for the cheapest they can find. It's not until they have a problem that they find out about other people's issues.

 

[SBV116]

^ Agreed, i STILL get people moaning about prices, What do you say like, well, no, it's as cheap as we can, we do it to make money at the end of the day, it's X amount and the job's done correct, or i bloody hope so!!!

Be reet fred, the cream always comes to the top dude!

 

[Fred@BTM]

that's easy steve, i just reply with "we're not a f**king charity!" (i'm the boss, i can say that)

just driven said car, now goes like a missle

 

[Stu_350z]

Freds prices are very competitive anyway so for a grade A job it is superb value

 

[fletch8]

Out of curiosity what happens should a cambelt job not be done properly?
Just a piss poor running engine or any major work?

 

[Fred@BTM]

^depends how bad it is

timing slightly out, you won't notice (but belt could wear quicker if tensioner is off, in 95% of cases it is, the belt off this one is just over 1 year old, it looks like its done 70K miles)

timing miles out, will idle like crap and feel really flat - bye bye 20bhp

 

[Gouldy]

The price is what it is. No point contesting it. It is what it is and you get what you pay for. I spent £700+ at freds the other week. It was worth every penny. My timing is now right and I had a big service including plugs etc.

Ill be spending it again in 32,000 miles time too.

 

[Fred@BTM]

^5years mate, 5years