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Breaking cover......*AG content from page 45*
- Thread starter NorthloopCup
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NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Ok, so 10 points if you can see what's changed here:
So the car is now sporting it's Nurburgring geo setup - basically slightly raised ride height (minimal tbh) and very aggressive toe. I usually adjust the toe when I get there, but seeing as it's going on a trailer for 75% of the journey it was a no brainer. These settings have been learned and tweaked over the years, so I know what suits me and the car for the nordschliefe. :wink:
Thanks, appreciate the comments. We will see just how special it is in the coming days/weeks.
Cheers Tom, appreciate it. :up:
Inferno 225 cup
Turned it into an 8 wheeler?[emoji41]
f**k I'm good. X
f**k I'm good. X
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Lol!! Incorrect! The correct answer would be: welded a diesel golf on to the back of the cup! 😂
gudger12345
ClioSport Club Member
Ph1 172
Gearbox related 
????
????
Oh, oh, oh. New scoop on the undertray? Possibly to shove a breeze up your bum on hot days?
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Very close!!
Yes, there has been some adjustment to the undertray, but not to shove air up to my arse! Lol!!
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Nope! Lol! It's got additional something, but not for cooling purposes. It is gearbox oil cooler related though...
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
uummmmm...... hope that extra TOW isn't an issue for the journey over now. Nightmare,
Have a great time and enjoy all the hard work sir. Build is awesome.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Safe to say, it's a f**king story and a half to write up when we get back!! Disaster doesn't describe what we've been through!!
green
ClioSport Club Member
Hi comp phase 1
Your such a tease x
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
I'll save it for when I'm back gents, but needless to say it involved a bmw engine going bang, a 6hr channel tunnel delay, a ferry crossing instead, then a long uncomfortable drive over in the cup instead!
I've done a sighting lap and went straight into the 8:40's - not bad considering I was taking it steady!! Few tweaks to make, then it's out for more laps.
incy-spider
ClioSport Club Member
8:40 taking it steady, that's what I was doing last time I was there trying hard, need more practice! 8:15s all day for you??
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Gents I'm locking the thread now until I get back. What started off as a bad weekend has just been compounded. The cars fine, and more importantly I'm fine too, but there will be no more laps for me.
When I'm home and sorted I'll re-open the thread and put up a write up.
Thanks for all the comments gents, I'll be back soon.
When I'm home and sorted I'll re-open the thread and put up a write up.
Thanks for all the comments gents, I'll be back soon.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Right then, where to f**king start!!!!!!
Well here's the full version of the fun weekend me and @BIGASH have just had.
I travelled to London, met up with James and loaded the cup on to his trailer. Text message from eurotunnel - 2hr delay on the tunnel. Great.
James' 535D has only recently had an engine rebuild (less than 1200 miles ago), but seeing as it was done by bmw and cost a small fortune, it was going to be done right. Wrong. 40 miles into the journey and it goes bang again on the M20!! The bottom end was knocking it's tits off. We got recovered to Folkestone services and decided what to do. Thankfully one of James' mates (Dan the legend) came to our rescue and recovered the trailer with my car on and James' car was recovered back ready for a trip up to bmw. The cup was removed off the trailer, and that was then recovered back to Essex. This then left me and James with a decision - do we continue on our journey to Germany, or do we call it a day and turn around. There was only one way, and that way was to carry on. Remember the 2hr delay? Yeah well now it's a 4hr delay. We arrived at the tunnel to find out it's a 6hr delay. They very kindly offered us a ferry journey instead, so off we went to Dover to catch a ferry!! Arrived, got on the boat and had a bit of a sleep.
We are still gumballing.
We arrived at the Nurburgring after a 18hr journey and a diversion to Aachen to pick up a German hire car for James, so he can get around whilst I'm out doing laps.
On Friday afternoon it was time to go out and do a sighter in the cup - feels fast, just need to dial in the suspension. That's a job for Saturday. For now, I was confident of a good laptime as I went straight into the 8:40's, so assuming we had good weather and clear laps, a sub 8:10 was on the cards. No doubt in my mind. Myself and James were confident. It was now time for a bit of food!
Saturday morning arrives and it's time to dial the cup in and push on. First lap out and I'm going well, but there's just way to many yellow flags to get a clear lap in, so I decided to give it 30 mins or so. One positive was I was keeping a M4 honest - he may have been in front, but he couldn't leave the cup!
Now it's time for lap 2 on Saturday. This was quite possibly the worst lap I've EVER had in the 12yrs I've been doing TF. So many yellow flags it's untrue - one of these yellow zones almost saw the end of the cup, no thanks to a E36 M3. He was paying absolutely NO attention to the yellow zone we were entering into pflanzgarten. He was just focussed on why this little Clio was out running him, and determined he was getting passed. At this point in time I was running with an E46 M3 (passed him through the Hatzenbach and he only came back past on the back section of the circuit), and the cup was showing impressive pace. E46 hits the brakes hard - I hit the brakes hard - E36 swerves to the left and rubs it down the Armco. Nice work dickhead. Trust me folks, this was way to close for comfort.
At this point I was seriously pissed off, so I finished the lap off and went to meet up with James and grab a spot of lunch. This was hopefully going to give the bell ends a bit of time to get it out their system!
After we'd had lunch, James booked himself into a swift from rent4ring. We went out in this to do a couple of laps as there'd been a bit of rain. By lap 2, the circuit was dry and it was time to play follow the leader - me in the cup and James in the swift. Now obviously there was a substantial power difference between the 2, so I just went slower so James could keep up. Gopros turned on and away we go!! I entered Tiergarten with the back end making the attempt to lead the way. Headed down into the Hatzenbach and hopped a kerb on the way on to Hochiechen (no different to any other lap!!) and popped the o/s driveshaft. b****cks!! The cup was recovered off the nordschliefe and pay my bill of €480. Lol - I'm now an official member of the Bongard club!! We got the car to the hotel (it drove still, just very slowly) and found the driveshaft issue.
Now it's time to form a plan of attack. Only one option - get a flight back home and pick up my spare o/s shaft.
We travelled at warp speed to Frankfurt airport to get a flight - time was really tight here, but thanks to the awesome 'f**k it' attitude of @BIGASH we arrived with 1hr 20mins to spare. I went to get my ticket and got royally fucked over by a last minute ticket seller - I missed the flight back to collect my driveshaft and threaten to kill the guy who caused me to miss the flight unless he gave me a refund. As you can imagine, I was a tad excitable. Needless to say, I got a refund. Called James to get him to come and pick me up and we returned to hotel and arrange alternative arrangements. Both of us were feeling a tad dejected.
So the thinking caps are on - only one man can come to the rescue now. @not normal dan receives a call off me asking if he can come to the rescue. He agrees and he is booked on a flight from Birmingham to drop off my spare shaft on Sunday morning. That'll be another trip to Frankfurt airport then!! Ffs!
Up early and back to Frankfurt at warp speed where we met up with Dan. We had some breakfast and the crack, then it's time for Dan to catch his return flight as he's got a bbq to attend in the afternoon. Lol!!
We returned to fit the driveshaft. A nice and simple job - then it's just a road test. Happy days!! Drove down the hotel drive and turned left - knock knock. Who's there? Fucked Quaife diff. Nice work.
So now, we are really in the s**t.
So what do we do now??? Panic and try to find alternative methods of returning home. We had various options available, but no international rescue as the cup was supposed to be trailered - no need for that right? Wrong. Very wrong. This is where @BIGASH comes into his own. He thinks sensibly and methodically. Various phone calls were made and we have Dan the legend (who recovered the trailer on the M20) saying he was going to get on the eurotunnel and come to the rescue. So now we are not really feeling it as quite clearly myself and James had the luck of the Irish. Yeah my arse we did!! It would've been just our luck that Dan would've broken down and we would've all been stranded in europe. No thanks - we've had enough drama. We decided on the next best option which was to fly back home and have the cup recovered later on in the week. Yep you've guessed it, we are going back to Frankfurt for the 4th time!!
With the Cup left at hotel, we returned to the uk on Monday morning. The cup is being collected by @LeeP86 FOC on Thursday as a favour for a mate.
Now that's what I call a holiday.
This had left me with a real tough decision for what to do with the cup next, as after this weekends shenanigans I was ready to strip it and f**k the whole lot off. When it gets home on Thursday, it'll be put in the garage until I've got time to remove and strip the box and see what it's done. With the baby due to arrive in October and a room to prepare for the main event, it'll be a while I think.
Needless to say, the cups staying. Despite all the dramas, that little car was punching way above its weight and earned its right to live to fight another day. Mechanical failures are always going to happen, but this one is a very unexpected failure.
I've got to say a massive thanks to @BIGASH , @not normal dan and @LeeP86. You guys are some of the best mates I could wish to have, and I am eternally grateful for everything you've done and continue doing.
All that's left to say is something that will mean f**k all to most, but those who know me will understand:
3000 miles, 3000 smiles and let's get in on top of that, I've got crazy piles!!
More to come.
Well here's the full version of the fun weekend me and @BIGASH have just had.
I travelled to London, met up with James and loaded the cup on to his trailer. Text message from eurotunnel - 2hr delay on the tunnel. Great.
James' 535D has only recently had an engine rebuild (less than 1200 miles ago), but seeing as it was done by bmw and cost a small fortune, it was going to be done right. Wrong. 40 miles into the journey and it goes bang again on the M20!! The bottom end was knocking it's tits off. We got recovered to Folkestone services and decided what to do. Thankfully one of James' mates (Dan the legend) came to our rescue and recovered the trailer with my car on and James' car was recovered back ready for a trip up to bmw. The cup was removed off the trailer, and that was then recovered back to Essex. This then left me and James with a decision - do we continue on our journey to Germany, or do we call it a day and turn around. There was only one way, and that way was to carry on. Remember the 2hr delay? Yeah well now it's a 4hr delay. We arrived at the tunnel to find out it's a 6hr delay. They very kindly offered us a ferry journey instead, so off we went to Dover to catch a ferry!! Arrived, got on the boat and had a bit of a sleep.
We are still gumballing.
We arrived at the Nurburgring after a 18hr journey and a diversion to Aachen to pick up a German hire car for James, so he can get around whilst I'm out doing laps.
On Friday afternoon it was time to go out and do a sighter in the cup - feels fast, just need to dial in the suspension. That's a job for Saturday. For now, I was confident of a good laptime as I went straight into the 8:40's, so assuming we had good weather and clear laps, a sub 8:10 was on the cards. No doubt in my mind. Myself and James were confident. It was now time for a bit of food!
Saturday morning arrives and it's time to dial the cup in and push on. First lap out and I'm going well, but there's just way to many yellow flags to get a clear lap in, so I decided to give it 30 mins or so. One positive was I was keeping a M4 honest - he may have been in front, but he couldn't leave the cup!
Now it's time for lap 2 on Saturday. This was quite possibly the worst lap I've EVER had in the 12yrs I've been doing TF. So many yellow flags it's untrue - one of these yellow zones almost saw the end of the cup, no thanks to a E36 M3. He was paying absolutely NO attention to the yellow zone we were entering into pflanzgarten. He was just focussed on why this little Clio was out running him, and determined he was getting passed. At this point in time I was running with an E46 M3 (passed him through the Hatzenbach and he only came back past on the back section of the circuit), and the cup was showing impressive pace. E46 hits the brakes hard - I hit the brakes hard - E36 swerves to the left and rubs it down the Armco. Nice work dickhead. Trust me folks, this was way to close for comfort.
At this point I was seriously pissed off, so I finished the lap off and went to meet up with James and grab a spot of lunch. This was hopefully going to give the bell ends a bit of time to get it out their system!
After we'd had lunch, James booked himself into a swift from rent4ring. We went out in this to do a couple of laps as there'd been a bit of rain. By lap 2, the circuit was dry and it was time to play follow the leader - me in the cup and James in the swift. Now obviously there was a substantial power difference between the 2, so I just went slower so James could keep up. Gopros turned on and away we go!! I entered Tiergarten with the back end making the attempt to lead the way. Headed down into the Hatzenbach and hopped a kerb on the way on to Hochiechen (no different to any other lap!!) and popped the o/s driveshaft. b****cks!! The cup was recovered off the nordschliefe and pay my bill of €480. Lol - I'm now an official member of the Bongard club!! We got the car to the hotel (it drove still, just very slowly) and found the driveshaft issue.
Now it's time to form a plan of attack. Only one option - get a flight back home and pick up my spare o/s shaft.
We travelled at warp speed to Frankfurt airport to get a flight - time was really tight here, but thanks to the awesome 'f**k it' attitude of @BIGASH we arrived with 1hr 20mins to spare. I went to get my ticket and got royally fucked over by a last minute ticket seller - I missed the flight back to collect my driveshaft and threaten to kill the guy who caused me to miss the flight unless he gave me a refund. As you can imagine, I was a tad excitable. Needless to say, I got a refund. Called James to get him to come and pick me up and we returned to hotel and arrange alternative arrangements. Both of us were feeling a tad dejected.
So the thinking caps are on - only one man can come to the rescue now. @not normal dan receives a call off me asking if he can come to the rescue. He agrees and he is booked on a flight from Birmingham to drop off my spare shaft on Sunday morning. That'll be another trip to Frankfurt airport then!! Ffs!
Up early and back to Frankfurt at warp speed where we met up with Dan. We had some breakfast and the crack, then it's time for Dan to catch his return flight as he's got a bbq to attend in the afternoon. Lol!!
We returned to fit the driveshaft. A nice and simple job - then it's just a road test. Happy days!! Drove down the hotel drive and turned left - knock knock. Who's there? Fucked Quaife diff. Nice work.
So now, we are really in the s**t.
So what do we do now??? Panic and try to find alternative methods of returning home. We had various options available, but no international rescue as the cup was supposed to be trailered - no need for that right? Wrong. Very wrong. This is where @BIGASH comes into his own. He thinks sensibly and methodically. Various phone calls were made and we have Dan the legend (who recovered the trailer on the M20) saying he was going to get on the eurotunnel and come to the rescue. So now we are not really feeling it as quite clearly myself and James had the luck of the Irish. Yeah my arse we did!! It would've been just our luck that Dan would've broken down and we would've all been stranded in europe. No thanks - we've had enough drama. We decided on the next best option which was to fly back home and have the cup recovered later on in the week. Yep you've guessed it, we are going back to Frankfurt for the 4th time!!
With the Cup left at hotel, we returned to the uk on Monday morning. The cup is being collected by @LeeP86 FOC on Thursday as a favour for a mate.
Now that's what I call a holiday.
This had left me with a real tough decision for what to do with the cup next, as after this weekends shenanigans I was ready to strip it and f**k the whole lot off. When it gets home on Thursday, it'll be put in the garage until I've got time to remove and strip the box and see what it's done. With the baby due to arrive in October and a room to prepare for the main event, it'll be a while I think.
Needless to say, the cups staying. Despite all the dramas, that little car was punching way above its weight and earned its right to live to fight another day. Mechanical failures are always going to happen, but this one is a very unexpected failure.
I've got to say a massive thanks to @BIGASH , @not normal dan and @LeeP86. You guys are some of the best mates I could wish to have, and I am eternally grateful for everything you've done and continue doing.
All that's left to say is something that will mean f**k all to most, but those who know me will understand:
3000 miles, 3000 smiles and let's get in on top of that, I've got crazy piles!!
More to come.
BMW M4; S1000 RR
Going to have to watch that this week now!
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Even when everything's gone or going wrong, you've just gotta keep on going.
Keith185
ClioSport Club Member
Bad luck doesn't even sound like it anywhere near a good a word to describe it all. Amazing commitment and work to sort it all and F**k it attitude to the luck all will come good in the end.
all will come good in the end.
182cup & 172 racecar
Lol, good weekend then.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
If it was easy everyone would be doing it, right? Lol!
Yeah he's one of the VERY best mate, as are all the others that went well out of their way to help out.
:up:
Well I've had better, I'll be honest! 😂
Megane r26
All in a day's work @NorthloopCup, nice little Sunday morning adventure shame it didn't all go smoothly!
Not bad for saying I don't like planes and I'd only ever flown twice before lol
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Not bad for saying I don't like planes and I'd only ever flown twice before lol
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incy-spider
ClioSport Club Member
Whoa mate, that's some shitty bad luck... Top work from your mates though, awesome stuff!
Wonder what's killed that diff?? Will be interested to see that, at least you got a taste for what that little beast can do though, which has got to be inspiration for not giving up on it and getting back to the ring [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]
Wonder what's killed that diff?? Will be interested to see that, at least you got a taste for what that little beast can do though, which has got to be inspiration for not giving up on it and getting back to the ring [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Honestly mate, me and James were f**king howling with laughter on the way back, as neither of us had any idea you don't like flying!! And you never said a f**king word until you were in Frankfurt for breakfast!! 😂
^^^^^^^This folks, is the attitude of a legend.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Yeah without a shadow of doubt mate.
Dunno tbh and it's gonna be a few months before I can get it opened up to have a look inside.
As for a return to the ring - NEVER again for TF. This year was the worst TF I've ever done, so that's it's now for me. I will consider doing a trackday there though, but there's no way on gods earth I'm doing it without a trailer and a back up plan. The stress it's caused the wife alone just isn't fair - keeping in mind she's 24 weeks pregnant.
Whilst I was awaiting recovery, the amount of people who didn't slow down for the yellow zone was beyond ridiculous mate. They were down right dangerous, and you know what, the majority were Brits.
Megane r26
Lol never liked flying even though I can understand the physics of it, also the fact Rolls Royce have been showing me multiple cases and videos of what goes wrong if I weren't to follow the process doesn't help lol
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NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Here's another example of @BIGASH 's commitment - this was on the way to Frankfurt on Sunday morning!!
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
incy-spider
ClioSport Club Member
Understandable mate, to be fair to yourself you did make a last min decision! I must have been pretty lucky in the last 3 years I have been, never had any issues with pricks being pricks.. the last time was in 2014 and was planning on the only full weekend left this year in September, really hope it's not as bad as your trip sounds (mechanicals aside)
Shout if you need any super trade prices on parts [emoji106][emoji106]
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
It's the worst I've known it in 12yrs mate, but good things always come to an end unfoetunately.
Nice one mate that's very much appreciated!! So are you going this year? If you are drop me a text - I've got a 9 lap ticket that's got 6 left on it that I'll be selling.
incy-spider
ClioSport Club Member
Very much hope so mate but 2 of the cars are being built still, I'm building one so pressure is on... mine is ready as always though so fingers crossed!
That would be ideal, may take you up on that! [emoji106][emoji106]
