Someone sort my head out..

[Curley]

I'm very close to signing for a Albi blue 200 with cup pack, Recaros, cornering lights, bluetooth etc. system, folding mirrors. I am getting it for cost price. I'll probably negotiate some speedlines in too

I own a nice 182, I bought it completely standard and have spent alot of time and money getting it to how I want.

The thing is, I decide i want the 200 then change my mind, I then do this again and again and again.. normally around 30 times a day :boring:

I love my 182, it's had everything done to it while still keeping it an immaculate and unmolested example but the 200 is a brand new and a much better car. The only thing i wasn't happy with the 200 was the straight line speed. The one i drove only had 4 miles on the clock but after talking and PM'ing 197 and 200 owners they say the engine does loosen up and there would be no difference between the 200 and 182.

Engine wise, my 182 has had matched inlets, straight through milltek exhaust, modified cat, V6 espace indction set up and a remap so it will pull much better than a standard 182, therefore quicker than a 200 but shall i trade a quicker car in for a better car?

The main reason i would sell the 182 is because they are becoming very cheap therefore they are probably the one of the first thing young drivers look at (now, im only 20 myself but by no means a rude boy street racer). Also with people trying to be 'different' they are ruining a perfectly good car and making them look s**t (best to be honest)!

I look at mine after a wash and am still in love with the car, its very well maintained and wont need touching for a long time unless something goes wrong.. which is another reason I should go for the 200.. Warranty! (albeit pish renault warranty)

So, as the title.. what would you do if you were in my shoes?

 

[Jasey]

Keep the 182.

 

[mat-nos]

imo if your still changing your mind then its not time to sell up......

very easy to say take the chance that the 200 will be loved and enjoyed just as much but how easy do you think you could shift the 200 on/how much money would you loose/how easy would it be to get another 182 i the same condition as the one you have now if you decided the 200 is not what you hoped??

 

[stu-172]

Keep the 182! They'll not lose much more money now, compared to the 3k you'll lose driving the 200 out of the showroom!

 

[Brett]

Just go for it mate. If your getting it cheap why not. I'm not a big fan of Albi personally though. I'd go for Ultra Red or Alien Green personally.

 

[Curley]

Keep the 182.

Coming from someone with a 200? Why is this?

imo if your still changing your mind then its not time to sell up......

very easy to say take the chance that the 200 will be loved and enjoyed just as much but how easy do you think you could shift the 200 on/how much money would you loose/how easy would it be to get another 182 i the same condition as the one you have now if you decided the 200 is not what you hoped??

I think thats what stopping me.. missing the 182

Everyone on RS who have gone from a 182 to a 200 have not regretted it one bit :S

Keep the 182! They'll not lose much more money now, compared to the 3k you'll lose driving the 200 out of the showroom!

That doesn't bother me as i'll be keeping it 2/3 years.

 

[ForceIndia]

Everyone on RS who have gone from a 182 to a 200 have not regretted it one bit :S

Flip side being those that have stayed with the older car, and not regretted it. Personally, I can't see why you'd go for a 200 if changeing.

If you want to change, there are better cars around (if a better cabin, more refinment etc are a factor). You'd be spending a fair wedge for a car that's no quicker, and by all accounts less 'fun' to drive.

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Id wait until they drop a bit, let someone else take the brunt of the depreciation drop.

Id never ever buy a new Renault

 

[Dunn]

personally if you love the 182 so much then things can only get better with the 200

go for it

 

[Jamie]

I think they are nice cars but not worth the price tag. In a couple of years when you're paying off the car and want a house you'll need to sell the car and save cash. Then you'll think about how you had just of kept the 182. Maybe look a little long term and how it'll affect the next 5 years of your life. 16k on a 200 is alot of money, esp given that a 182 is about 5k.

 

[Mr Burns]

Only you can decide mate, I'd consider upgrading to a 200 but instead I will probably go for a DC5 as I've owned 4 Clios now and fancy something different (and better, hopefully)

 

[Jasey]

Coming from someone with a 200? Why is this?

I had a suzuki swift before I got the 200 .

You don't sound convinced that you think the 200 is different enough (and you even sound like you may think the 200 will be less of a car in some respects).

I reckon you should wait a year and see how you feel - the Next Clio is bound to be even better than the 200.

The 200 is the best car I've had for driving on the a-b roads in Aberdeenshire (Had Impreza STi, Audi 3.0 sport, Focus ST170 amongst others).

I've not driven a 182 and I'd be surprised if it's anything like as good as a 200 in the bendy stuff.

You should also state what "cost" price means - if you're talking 14k for the spec you've mentioned then it makes it more attractive

Wait n see is still my advice.

 

[ForceIndia]

16k-ish can get you into a 40k miles S3. No contest.

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

16k-ish can get you into a 40k miles S3. No contest.

I tend to agree but runnning costs on higher end cars stay the same regardless how cheap it can be picked up for and in some cases higher as it gets older as your well aware!

 

[ForceIndia]

I tend to agree but runnning costs on higher end cars stay the same regardless how cheap it can be picked up for and in some cases higher as it gets older as your well aware!

Mmmm. Mpg would be similar, depreciation would offset any servicing/consumable costs.

 

[Mr Burns]

Just for the record, I don't regret selling my 182. I miss the ecconomy of the 182 and the fact that it cost me alot less, but my 197 is awesome in comparison to the 182 in almost every way. It handles better, stops quicker, drives better, comfier, looks better, gets more attention (ASW), better driving position, more composure on track. Faster? Meh, who cares... It's a better car.

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Mmmm. Mpg would be similar, depreciation would offset any servicing/consumable costs.

Good points there, i know what id rather (and i cant believe the price of S3's now :S since the facelift came out)

Just for the record, I don't regret selling my 182. I miss the ecconomy of the 182 and the fact that it cost alot less, but my 197 is awesome in comparison to the 182 in almost every way. It handles better, stops quicker, drives better, comfier, looks better, gets more attention (ASW), better driving position, more composure on track. Faster? Meh, who cares... It's a better car.

In alot of respects probably but alot will disagree but then opinions are what make the world go round lol

 

[Mr Burns]

In alot of respects probably but alot will disagree but then opinions are what make the world go round lol

Justifying making the change from a 182 to a 200 is one thing, arguing over the 182 being the better car is another.

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Which theres no point in going into and thread jacking

 

[Gaz_]

I would for sure, but not in Albi. 197 only imo, something i cant put my finger on with the 200 in Albi.

 

[Tunst]

Do it

Pic is a 197 but still!!! (Crappy iPhone Pic)

 

[Brian]

I think the fact you've already speeced the car you want and sorted out what it'll cost you, you've already decided.
The doubt is only there because it's a big step, in terms of making a purchase.

 

[Mr Burns]

I think the fact you've already speeced the car you want and sorted out what it'll cost you, you've already decided.
The doubt is only there because it's a big step, in terms of making a purchase.

Agreed. If you want one and can afford one, do it. Make sure you're ready for poor fuel ecconomy, it ain't pretty. If you don't do it now you'll do it later and wish you'd done it sooner.

 

[Chili Red]

Doooooooo it! That 'new car' feeling is awesome.

I was really reluctant to sell my 182 and sad to see it go, but haven't regretted it all, I still love the R26. If you can get a 200 at cost, you might as well go for it.

Alien Green or Ultra Red though over Albi Blue.

 

[R-Sport.]

Doooooooo it! That 'new car' feeling is awesome.

I was really reluctant to sell my 182 and sad to see it go, but haven't regretted it all, I still love the R26. If you can get a 200 at cost, you might as well go for it.

Alien Green or Ultra Red though over Albi Blue.

Or liquid yellow.........

S

 

[Mr Burns]

Liquid Yellow works better on the 200 than the 197 imo.

 

[Chili Red]

Or liquid yellow.........

Don't want too many people getting it, it's getting a bit common

Liquid Yelllow works better on the 200 than the 197 imo.

I think it's the other way round!

 

[R-Sport.]

Liquid Yellow works better on the 200 than the 197 imo.

oh Hai...!

http://img245.imageshack.us/i/200ly011.jpg/
S

 

[Chili Red]

oh Hai...!

http://img245.imageshack.us/i/200ly011.jpg/
S

Would look better if its nose was liquid yellow, or if it didn't have teeth. I dunno, I'll never like that front end

 

[R-Sport.]

Would look better if its nose was liquid yellow, or if it didn't have teeth. I dunno, I'll never like that front end

I said that about the 197 then the 200- both grew on me- the 200 is growing on me faster than the 197 did- although I doubt I will have it for long- although at least im not desperate to sell it..

S

 

[Jimbo-Clio]

Why dnt you just keep your 182 as its mint and mechanically sound
you would save alot of money and have alot more pride in say maybe camming the 182 to take it up to nearly 200bhp anyway?

 

[Jimbo-Clio]

Oh and as for the boy racer comment, you will find that with 90% of cars mate
i haven seen loads of expensive cars tht look shite! at my local tesco

Example: BMW M3 53 plate on massive 18 dog wolf race rims
Astra VXR coverd in twatish stickers like "nos"

The 200 will be no different in 6 months anyone can have a sub 20k nice car with finance these days

 

[DB.]

Buy Steves LY200! Nicer than the blue imo.

Its a step up in car terms due to being newer/a more modern style/less miles/fresher etc, although performance wise it's not.

Most people think you always need to upgrade performance wise, but if your happy with the level of performance, then your upgrading to a newer and better car. If you can afford to, i would.

 

[DB.]

And im not saying this because of our PM's lol!

 

[Mr Burns]

My 200 would look like this...

 

[DB.]

That is Amazing!

 

[gashead1105]

When I specced one up the way I wanted, it came to over 18k. I almost purchased it, for all the reasons already given by others in this thread the 200 is a massive step up on the 182...

But, as others have also said already, it will depreciate so much that, for me, its just not worth it. For virtually the same price, I can get a nice Z4MC/R, which has done most, if not all of its depreciation already. Alternatively, wait 12/18 months, your 182 will not lose a great deal more, and then buy a second hand 200 and let someone else take that depresciation hit. I'm going to go with one or other of these choices anyway!

 

[gaz44]

Have you considered any other cars?

 

[Curley]

All other cars are out of the equation except a Megane R26, Focus ST and Astra VXR.. these are simply for the Turbo and tuning capabilities.

I'd prefer to stick with the Clio due to insurance, servicing, general costs etc. but I still want to have a fairly quick car in a straight line. Clio's are also ALOT of fun.

If I could justify the price of LY or AG i'd spec that but I cant when deep down I need a blue car lol I'd also consider Storm Grey.

If I can get 6k for my car then I think I'll be signing on the dotted line very soon, i wouldn't get the car until 1st September so I'd have a few months to say my goodbyes to my 182.

 

[tollan172]

to pay 16 grand for a clio imo is crazy theres so much more car out there for 16k as sum1 said an s3 even an 05 plate m3 if u want a more refined car then why get another clio and if u want fun and stuff then just keep the 182 same thrills no big price tag if u want refined get a better car worthy of a 16k price tag