Removing Air-Con Pulley......my alternative method!!!

[LeeJSA]

Removing Air-Con Pump......my alternative method!!!

Here you go guys....heres a cheap & easy way of removing your air con pump...

Basically consists of new Saab pulley, 1400mm 6 Rib belt, modded cosworth alternator bracket & a 172 non air con alternator (I'm sure I could of used the original one to be honest but I impulse swapped mine for this one anyway).

Probably not overly pretty but it does the job...and cost me around £40-50 for the parts...

Original belt layout can be seen here...

My version...

Not particularly pretty I admit....function over form etc but gets rid of a load of unwanted weight & a small amount of load on the engine and doesnt cost a fortune like some conversions do.

Every little helps..

 

[172Ben]

How much is a load of unwanted weight?

 

[Pettsi]

Blimey!

 

[ukjohnny]

looks like a mess but i'm sure you know what your doing, good job

 

[LeeJSA]

How much is a load of unwanted weight?

Pass - however heavy the air con pump is and a couple of brackets.

 

[Fred@BTM]

that diagonal bar coming off the block has f**k all strength in it, i'd be surprised if that belt doesn't slip

 

[Daniel]

Remind me never to buy a car off this guy.

 

[Fred@BTM]

why?????

 

[172bagss2]

Re: Removing Air-Con Pump......my alternative method!!!

On this pic the alternator looks like it's on the piss... or is it just me??

Anyway...

Cup Alternator Brackets £38 (delivered)
Cup Alternator £40
Cup Belt £15

For everything else there's www.birchdown.com !! :rasp:

 

[Alastair.]

omg i can see that aux belt flying off from that idler when u start the bean up

 

[Daniel]

why?????

Does this not explain anything??

(I am joking btw)

 

[Fred@BTM]

^thats standard procedure!

 

[172bagss2]

^^ LOL :lolup:

 

[Mike@Rentech]

that alternator sticks out a long way are you sure it's going to fit, make the alternator bracket stronger. Why not ditch the power steering as well ?

 

[LeeJSA]

Fred - I thought someone might say that - but believe me when all bolted up its VERY tight & solid - bear in mind its only job is to keep the alternator in position if something strange should occur to the long main alternator bolt. But I might put the other bracket back into the equation...its no biggy.

Daniel - Why's that exactly - but fear not I cant see me the selling the clio in the forseeable future so you've got nothing to worry about! How would you suggest I remove the engine & box out of my Clio when I havent got my ramps up yet?? Ever heard of the word 'improvisation'!!??

172Bagss2 - Yeh agreed thats cheap but when I rang around no body had any of the parts so I opted for this route - and no its not on the piss - everything lines up perfectly.

Baileys16vBeast - Can I ask why you say that?

Mike@Rentech - I did consider ditching the power steering as well.....but decided that I'm a bit lazy so prefered to keep it. I think it should fit but its not a problem if it doesnt I'll just get a shorter belt and move the alternator round & up slightly.

I might put the other bracket back in then to strengthen it all up & keep people happy....like this...

Thanks for the comments.....I think!! lol

 

[Jay Payne]

There is an alternative to the cup set up..........


http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=296190&page=15

 

[LeeJSA]

Well much to the disappointment of some people I'm sure.....my little mod seems to work a treat....

Just a shame the bearings in the alternator sound like they have gone.......the guy didnt tell me that when I swapped him for my good one!!!

Btw...ignore the engine movement - the dog bone mount wasnt connected at that point!!!

 

[172Ben]

was the alternator fine before you did all this?

 

[LeeJSA]

Its a different alternator...I swapped my perfectly working one for a non air con 172 alternator off a member on here.

I can tell the bearings shagged because a.) its noisy b.) it gets hot very quickly!!

 

[gtruk]

not good - name and shame

 

[Gt rob]

Re: Removing Air-Con Pump......my alternative method!!!

On this pic the alternator looks like it's on the piss... or is it just me??

Anyway...

Cup Alternator Brackets £38 (delivered)
Cup Alternator £40
Cup Belt £15

For everything else there's www.birchdown.com !! :rasp:

can i get these bits still for these prices?

 

[DanFreemanPhoto]

3 years ago!!! I doubt it!

 

[Gt rob]

or at least close

 

[scotty2hotty81]

I'm sure removing the engine/box is easier up and out of the engine bay? Saves messing about with subframe etc, and is the alternator $hagged because there is no tensioner?

 

[Gt rob]

im just after the "cup bracket" prices mentioned in this thread

 

[Andyman]

Wanted section? ebay? breakers yard?

 

[Ricardos]

Its about £90ish for 1 bracket and £30ish for the other, £8 for the aux belt, £120 for an exchange cup alternator and about £20-£30 for bracket bolts. I have all the part numbers to hand for the 'Cup' alternator setup

 

[Jonny1*2]

On this pic the alternator looks like it's on the piss... or is it just me??

Anyway...

Cup Alternator Brackets £38 (delivered)
Cup Alternator £40
Cup Belt £15

For everything else there's www.birchdown.com !! :rasp:

Since when is an alternator that cheap?

 

[Ricardos]

I bought the complete setup 2nd hand off a 172 cup in a breakers for £75, keep looking out for them. IIRC the Kangoo 1.9 diesel uses the same alternator, there was 1 on E Bay for £50

 

[Gt rob]

il have to keep my eyes open