Project BioFuel/SVO/Veggie oil :-)

[Rob.]

Thought to my self f**k the stupid fuel prices latly i'm going tri and get the cheapest fuel i can

So i got this off ebay

its a mk1 Ph3 96, 1.9D ;-) VAN

I was lucky to get one with a Bosch Fuel pump YAY. so what i'm going to do is.
Run a 2 tank system. one will have Pure Veggie oil out of tesxco/Macro and places like that. the other will have normal 1.30 a liter diesel.

going use the diesel for the 1st 5min of the car starting then switch over to pure veggie oil.

just fitting the 2nd fuel tank today then got to wait for some 3way vavles to come and a inline fuel filter
will post more pictures up when i take them

 

[dirtydog]

good idea let us know how you get on. I run the surf on a diesel/oil mix not a twin tank though.

 

[Fred@BTM]

no need to run twin tanks, they run fine on 100% oil, sometimes a bit difficult to start when cold, but mine had knackered glow plugs

 

[.GAZ.]

should save a packet

 

[Rob.]

no need to run twin tanks, they run fine on 100% oil, sometimes a bit difficult to start when cold, but mine had knackered glow plugs

the reason for the twin tanks is to do cold starts just incase.
if there is a emergency and it dont start .

But as much as i can i will run it on the veggie oil.

 

[PS autoshine]

i will definatly be watching this thread.

 

[sh33n]

Out of interest is it illegal to do this? Because you aren't paying tax on fuel?

Fair play to ya though!

 

[Rob.]

Out of interest is it illegal to do this? Because you aren't paying tax on fuel?

Fair play to ya though!

Tax Duty on Bio-fuels don't come into play now unless you use more then 2500 Liters a year

 

[Laura]

but you still have to register that you use it,
just run 70/30 thats we we have done for years

 

[Rob.]

but you still have to register that you use it,
just run 70/30 thats we we have done for years

how much cheaper is that then diesel?
wht is it per liter?

 

[MATT BLACK]

lol - it will work

When its a little colder use a 75% oil / 25% paraffin - white spirit - kerosene mixture, whatever you can get cheaper ( the fat congeals and block injectors )

£8 for 20 lts at our local asian wholesalers

 

[Aluco]

Can you run any diesel on veggie oil :S ?

how much is veg oil per litre roughly ?

Interesting

 

[MATT BLACK]

By the way - your clio runs an F8Q 730 engine with a bosch R458 pump ( common rail type )

 

[MATT BLACK]

Can you run any diesel on veggie oil :S ?

how much is oil per litre roughly ?

Interesting

No - especially not the new DCi engine

£1 - £2 a litre or less

 

[Rob.]

Can you run any diesel on veggie oil :S ?

how much is oil per litre roughly ?

Interesting

nah not all diesel cars the engines should be fine with it but its the fuel lines / pumps / injectors and other things that wont Need to do alot of research before starting some thing like this

Hopfully getting mine to run at about 30 - 40 P a liter. (if brought in bulk)
found some at 40p a liter but looking for 30 now ;-) (then going to stock up)

 

[jez4130]

do you not have to filter the oil first or something?

 

[Rob.]

do you not have to filter the oil first or something?

If its wvo ( waste Veggie oil ) it needs alot of filter / dewatering and alot of other stuff to make it run fine.

By the way - your clio runs an F8Q 730 engine with a bosch R458 pump ( common rail type )

ummm are you sure its the F8Q 730 as i thought the F8Q 730 ran a rotodiesel pump

 

[teabag]

itll be ok for a while, but like someone said, the oil blocks up the lines injectors etc.

car will smell of chips aswell lol

 

[MATT BLACK]

If its wvo ( waste Veggie oil ) it needs alot of filter / dewatering and alot of other stuff to make it run fine.

By the way - your clio runs an F8Q 730 engine with a bosch R458 pump ( common rail type )

ummm are you sure its the F8Q 730 as i thought the F8Q 730 ran a rotodiesel pump

Mate - your talking to me here

 

[MATT BLACK]

Selected vehicle:
Clio Van | RC3 1,9D | S57I | Midnight blue bodywork paint
Selected RENAULT vehicle :
Registration number


P938BPE


Vehicle identification number (VIN)


VF1S576B515684135




Model


Clio (phase 3)


Model type


S57I

Date of manufacture


11 1996




Additional information :


Vehicle fabrication number F118362

Equipment level E1
Additional to equipment level YSO
Additional to Limited Edition SAN513

Paint code OV455
Seat trim DVARIA
Interior trim CENDRE

Equipment code 72V
A
C
F
K

M
R
T
V




Engine type F8Q
Engine type and suffix F8Q730

Engine fabrication number C360975



Gearbox type / JB3
Gearbox type and suffix / 064

Gearbox fabrication number C065924

Type of transmission /
Number of gears 5



Air conditioning type. Normal heating Anti-lock braking system No
Controlled suspension shock absorber No Fog lamps SPROJA
Level corrector No Power-assisted steering No
Pre-filter No Rear bench seat SBANAR
Reinforced suspension shock absorber No Type of climate Temperate climate

 

[Rob.]

Selected vehicle:
Clio Van | RC3 1,9D | S57I | Midnight blue bodywork paint
Selected RENAULT vehicle :
Registration number


P938BPE


Vehicle identification number (VIN)


VF1S576B515684135




Model


Clio (phase 3)


Model type


S57I

Date of manufacture


11 1996




Additional information :


Vehicle fabrication number F118362

Equipment level E1
Additional to equipment level YSO
Additional to Limited Edition SAN513

Paint code OV455
Seat trim DVARIA
Interior trim CENDRE

Equipment code 72V
A
C
F
K

M
R
T
V




Engine type F8Q
Engine type and suffix F8Q730

Engine fabrication number C360975



Gearbox type / JB3
Gearbox type and suffix / 064

Gearbox fabrication number C065924

Type of transmission /
Number of gears 5



Air conditioning type. Normal heating Anti-lock braking system No
Controlled suspension shock absorber No Fog lamps SPROJA
Level corrector No Power-assisted steering No
Pre-filter No Rear bench seat SBANAR
Reinforced suspension shock absorber No Type of climate Temperate climate

FBI ;-) lol

See on this website that i was looking at
http://www.biomotors.co.uk/CarsVansN.html#Renault
i did a search on there list for the F8Q 730 block and there tring to say its rotodiesel. but on the side of my pump is says BOSCH

10 points to matt black

 

[MATT BLACK]

2 different engines fitted to the same model

Its the F8Q 714 that runs the Lucas Roto diesel set up ( R8444B840A )

If your sure its a bosch pump it will be the F8Q 730 engine

 

[Fred@BTM]

i've got the lucas pump in mine because of this i run 2 parts diesel with 1 part used veg oil from my mates restaurant (i pass it through a bed sheet to filter it, thats all i do to it though)

runs fine, works out to be about 90p a litre

 

[Rob.]

2 different engines fitted to the same model

Its the F8Q 714 that runs the Lucas Roto diesel set up ( R8444B840A )

If your sure its a bosch pump it will be the F8Q 730 engine

F8Q 730 FTW

i've got the lucas pump in mine because of this i run 2 parts diesel with 1 part used veg oil from my mates restaurant (i pass it through a bed sheet to filter it, thats all i do to it though)

runs fine, works out to be about 90p a litre

Doesn't it need de-watering and over filtering ??

 

[Fred@BTM]

there's no water in it, i just change the fiesel filter more often, 40,000miles i did on oil on my old car (it went swimming before you ask)

 

[MATT BLACK]

(i pass it through a bed sheet to filter it, thats all i do to it though)

Ahhhh - hence the smell of food in your mothers bed

(c,mon Fred you were asking for that )

 

[Fred@BTM]

well at least she wasn't the one that ate all the chips eh matt

 

[Rob.]

all ready for 2 tanks

 

[christian rea]

Out of interest is it illegal to do this? Because you aren't paying tax on fuel?

Fair play to ya though!

you pay tax on vegetable oil like fuel

 

[Rob.]

Out of interest is it illegal to do this? Because you aren't paying tax on fuel?

Fair play to ya though!

you pay tax on vegetable oil like fuel

Only if you use more then 2500 liters a year

 

[rustybolt]

ive a friend who runs a company that actually produces Bio Diesel, they collect old cooking oil from a few pubs and resturaunts and produce it in their unit. With the caustic soda and other things it needs it works out at around 65p per litre to produce, i think they sell it out at around 85 - 90p a litre.

However you can run on vegy oil you buy at the supermarket, ive been in an astra van with it in and it smelled like a chip pan, it needs processing properly in my eyes.

Could always get Red

 

[Laura]

getting petrol lol

 

[Mark One]

cool thread. Be interested to see how this goes.

Are you going to run a tank heater?

 

[Rob.]

cool thread. Be interested to see how this goes.

Are you going to run a tank heater?

Might run a Heated Fuel filter. but not sure yet.

 

[Michael172]

watching this thread closely.........

keep us updated !!


I love morrisons.

 

[MrMark]

its amazing how many bulk buyers i see in Morrisons.

 

[Rob.]

its amazing how many bulk buyers i see in Morrisons.

How cheap is it in Morrisons?

 

[Iain C]

90p a litre doesnt sound that cheep. Tho i guess its a 40p saving.
I was expecting more like 55p a litre.

Interesting thread tho

 

[Rob.]

90p a litre doesnt sound that cheep. Tho i guess its a 40p saving.
I was expecting more like 55p a litre.

Interesting thread tho

Depends where you get it. Like said before some places sell 20liters for £8 so 40p a liter.

 

[Rob.]

Not really much to done tell you the truth.
I Have just filled the tank up with 95% veggie oil and the cars running

So for now i'm not going use 2 tanks