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Failed MOT - Airbag Light (non original seat and Steering wheel)

Discussion in 'Faults, Problems & Solutions' started by urquattrogus, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. urquattrogus

    urquattrogus ClioSport Club Member

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    Febraury last year my car passed with just one advisory - Air Bag light is on.

    Re test this year and of course the rules changed in April 2013.

    It's a trackday car so has a bucket seat, 6 point harness and OMP non airbag steering wheel.

    I plan to fit resistors in line to extinguish the light.....

    Once Airbag/SRS light is off; Has anyone sucesfully passed an MOT since april with a non standard seat and no airbag wheel?????

    What is my mimimum to do to pass? re fit standard wheel but surely not seat too!?
     
  2. Amos91

    Amos91 ClioSport Club Member

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    Should pass if the light is disabled (might get an advisory if you stop the light working entirely). Doesn't actually need to have airbags.
     
  3. Saul

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    I hope not! Mines going in tomorrow for an MOT with an OMP wheel, but my light is off (resistors).
     
  4. Iscariot

    Iscariot ClioSport Club Member

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    Mine failed on the exact same things, airbag and serv light on, aftermarket non-airbag wheel fitted.

    I had to refit the standard wheel and turn the airbag light off to pass. Bucket seat was put down as an advisory.
     
  5. MartinR

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    Can't see it being a problem myself. As long as it has been turned off...
     
  6. Tony Hunter

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    I thought that, if it was obvious that the car was a track car, it would pass.?
     
  7. Cub.

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    It needs to clearly be a track car - I.e. No rear seats, ideally bucket seats with harnesses and cage.

    It can't be just a swapped seat / steering wheel with the rest of the interior standard and the airbag light on.

    Or find a more intelligent MOT station. Mine is due in 3 weeks and I've already spoken to the MOT station who said they would pass it with the cage / OMP wheel / airbag gone etc. My light isn't on though.
     
  8. Tony Hunter

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    There you go then.
     
  9. Beasley Clio182

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    As stated if the lights on its a fail!

    If for example it has just a OMP steering wheel , it should fail as it's a fail if the car has obviously had a airbag removed from standard and is not presented as a track car !

    track car as stated , with cage bucket seats can have them removed then it's different
     
  10. masekwm

    masekwm ClioSport Club Member

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    It's a stupid rule, the light is a warning light about the airbag. If the airbag is missing the light should be on. If the light is off and the airbag is missing then it should be a fail as the warning system isnt working.
     
  11. urquattrogus

    urquattrogus ClioSport Club Member

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    I have a full roll cage, sabelt seat and 6 point harness for drivers side. Also no rear seats.

    I do have a standard seat as passenger seat and have left the standard front belts in.

    So it sounds like resistors and slap a standard ish wheel on there....
     
  12. Edges

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    No, for mot the light must come on then go off. Put some resistors in or have the ecu programmed to not need seat or wheel airbags. Then th light will work fine for mot purposes
     
  13. Alastair.

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    Wrong, if the light doesn't illuminate atall then it's just an advisory.
     
  14. Edges

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    No it's a fail.. An espace failed today at work for this
     
  15. underdog

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    isnt there a modified for motorsport rule or something,? mine is due soon so hope it will pass
     
  16. Saul

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    Right for anyone who uses the search bar about this issue, my car passed on Saturday with an OMP wheel and the Maplins resistors no issues.
     
  17. mikeh

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    Where did you put the resistors?

    Does anyone know the locations to put the resistors at the Airbag ECU end and where the Airbag ECU is?

    My slip ring is broken, so it'd be nice to have a fallback plan.
     
  18. M.C..

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    I e-mailed VOSA to ask about modified vehicles for track use I had this reply.

    Thank you for your e-mail enquiry dated 12th August 2013, concerning MOT.

    We are aware that the inspection of many of the new testable components may adversely impact modified vehicles. We have therefore made provision for most modifications to be accepted, provided that the vehicle is in fact extensively modified to meet a particular purpose, rather than simply modified on a whim and a fancy.

    The Introduction of the 2012 MOT Inspection Manual was amended at the end of April to coincide with the commencement of testing the new components. It states:

    Modified Vehicles

    Where a vehicle has been extensively modified or converted, Reasons for Rejection for components missing where fitted as standard should not be applied, for example:

    • a car converted for rally use (i.e. rear seats removed and fitted with a roll cage and full harness seat belts etc.) may have been converted so as not to require a brake servo or power steering

    • a car converted to a stretch limousine may no longer be fitted with curtain airbags

    Additionally, Section 5.1 of the Manual will be amended to state: "An adult harness belt comprising a lap belt and shoulder straps bearing an FIA, British Standard or European approval marking (an upper case ā€™Eā€™ or lower case ā€˜eā€™ and a number) is an acceptable alternative to any of the seat belt types listed"

    It is also worth pointing out that Section 6.2 of the Manual, on Seats and Doors, already contains a note in the Information Column which states: "Original design characteristics and specialised modifications (e.g. to enable wheelchair access) are to be accepted"

    It must be remembered however, that modifications can only be accepted so long as they comply with the Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986 and the Road Vehicles (Lighting) Regulations 1989 as amended.

    The MOT inspection manual also states:-

    If an ABS or ESC system has been intentionally rendered inoperative, the whole system must be removed. However, this does not apply to sensor rings or other ABS components which are an integral part of another component e.g. brake disc or drive.

    I hope this information has assisted you with your enquiry, but if you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us again.

    Kind Regards,

    Robert Evans
    Customer Service Centre
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    Tel: 0300 123 9000
     
  19. Tony Hunter

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    Very good and straight forward imo.
     
  20. Cub.

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    That is an excellent response. I'm printing it out as I type this...lol!
     
  21. M.C..

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    That's why I saved it.:smile:
     
  22. Tony Hunter

    Tony Hunter ClioSport Club Member

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    Needs a sticky really.
     
  23. harvsurrey

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    Mine passed Saturday , Sabelt wheel , resistors fitted correctly, not sure why you would not do this anyway unless lazy when you fit the wheel
     
  24. Jonesyuk

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    where are the resistirs fitted?
     
  25. harvsurrey

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    When you remove the original wheel there are 2 cables with plugs on the end that go into the airbag on the original wheel .

    The resistors are placed across the terminals of each plug, thus making the ice think they are plugged into the airbag.


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    mine are fitted a little better than that and then tapped over so they can't fall out , but you get the idea
     
  26. Alastair.

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    Trust me, if the light doesn't come on atall it's an advisory, saw it in black and white today on my m.o.t computer.
     
  27. Jonesyuk

    Jonesyuk ClioSport Club Member

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    u r a star, what resisters are they?
     

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