Clio 197 / 200 standing engine height

[LewisH]

Morning all,

Does anyone have the exact height of a 197 / 200 engine compared to a 172 / 182 engine? Both with Inlets on.
also has anyone fitted a full 197/200 engine into a clio 182?

Thanks

 

[Chrisgti6]

My understanding is that the issue with fitting a 197/200 engine is that the gearbox bolt holes on the block are different, so folk tend to use a 182 block with 197/200 head.

 

[plees]

I believe there may be a couple on here who have done it. Can’t for the life of me remember who!

 

[Crayola]

@NorthloopCup will tell you how involved it is to put a MK3 head on a MK2 bottom end

So much effort goes into it that I opted against it🤣

 

[NorthloopCup]

You need to drill a hole in the cylinder head for the timing belt tensioner so it’s the same as a 1*2.

Lots of work. You need to use to the mk3 inlets as well. 1*2 will not work.

 

[LewisH]

You need to drill a hole in the cylinder head for the timing belt tensioner so it’s the same as a 1*2.

Lots of work. You need to use to the mk3 inlets as well. 1*2 will not work.

I've got a full 197 head, i see the location the hole needs drilling too + ive got all the 197 inlets which have been re-drilled to take a phase 1 172 TB.
In essence i can run a full P1 loom, ECU etc with this setup

 

[Cub.]

I've got a full 197 head, i see the location the hole needs drilling too + ive got all the 197 inlets which have been re-drilled to take a phase 1 172 TB.
In essence i can run a full P1 loom, ECU etc with this setup

I think the point is, it’s a lot of work for how much benefit?

 

[LewisH]

I think the point is, it’s a lot of work for how much benefit?

I have an engine currently split as it needed a full rebuild. Got forged pistons / rods for it. Its an early Phase 1 172 engine with the bigger ported head

I also have a bare 197 head here with all the inlets etc
Rather make the best i can while i can

 

[NorthloopCup]

I think the point is, it’s a lot of work for how much benefit?

The hardwork is getting an ecu to run the cam sensor that’s on the 197/200 in a 1*2. The ability to run the full vvt is the reason why it’s worth doing.

Drilling and tapping a hole for the tensioner is very easy.