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TVR Cerbera
Ive got 2500's and hc's. Spot on. don't think HC's are needed though, no fade ever from 2500's (on track)
unless your rubber hoses have actually failed, I cant see any point in fitting braideds.... Those who have fitted them and claiming improvement have either had utterly shagged pipework or they are talking rubbish to justify the cost of the swap (or, less than likely, they are a race driver who has epic sense through their feet lol).
Obviously I expect to be flamed for this.... nevermind
Obviously I expect to be flamed for this.... nevermind
unless your rubber hoses have actually failed, I cant see any point in fitting braideds.... Those who have fitted them and claiming improvement have either had utterly shagged pipework or they are talking rubbish to justify the cost of the swap (or, less than likely, they are a race driver who has epic sense through their feet lol).
Obviously I expect to be flamed for this.... nevermind
Obviously I expect to be flamed for this.... nevermind
That, or you don't have to be a racing driver to have some sense of what is going under your foot when you're braking.
I get the impression you've never driven with braided hoses.
I have had plenty of cars with braided hoses and you do get a slightly better 'pedal feel' especially when you get the brakes very hot.
I have recently changed my 182 brakes to brembo hc front disks and genuine Renault pads, genuine Renault oem rear disks and pads with ate superblue fluid. I feel the fluid makes a big difference. Reasonable setup for road use but....
I think I will probably change the front pads to ds2500 and get some decent braided hoses too.
Oh and I bought all my kit from northwest performance. Really can't fault them.
I have recently changed my 182 brakes to brembo hc front disks and genuine Renault pads, genuine Renault oem rear disks and pads with ate superblue fluid. I feel the fluid makes a big difference. Reasonable setup for road use but....
I think I will probably change the front pads to ds2500 and get some decent braided hoses too.
Oh and I bought all my kit from northwest performance. Really can't fault them.
Civic Type-R FN2
Either you have no idea what your on about and are spouting an opinion for the sake of it, Or you have driven a car to compare oem vs braided hoses and don't have the ability to tell the difference. They do make a good difference, especially in conjunction with better fluid.
TVR Cerbera
Flamed x2....1, double post, lol and 2, why would you leave old rubber pipes on when upgrading the rest of the system? If you need to upgrade the brakes, it's because you have reached the limits of the oe stuff, if you dont upgrade a component of the system it will be next in line to fail.......
I have indeed driven cars with braided/rubber hoses and felt the fact the hoses were braided offered little to no extra 'feel' compared to good condition OEM hoses..... pad compound has a greater impact on 'feel' imho
Basically I'd never bother changing the lines for something else unless the hoses were off for what ever reason, ie taking a caliper all the way off etc.
Just my opinion that the time/cash would be better spent on other parts of a braking system, such as lairier pads and high quality fluid.
As said, I knew I'd get a flaming lol
Basically I'd never bother changing the lines for something else unless the hoses were off for what ever reason, ie taking a caliper all the way off etc.
Just my opinion that the time/cash would be better spent on other parts of a braking system, such as lairier pads and high quality fluid.
As said, I knew I'd get a flaming lol
TVR Cerbera
totally agree, if it was the first mod, it would be pads everytime. then fluid. then maybe discs (as the new pads would have chewed them up by this point, lol) then lines, then bias valves/pedal boxes etc etc
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Greeny.
ClioSport Club Member
440i + 182
HC are only £45 posted from nextdaybrakes so im game for them over the saving of Max discs, although everyone used to hump Max discs until a while ago on here. Ive only used HC's which I loved, can't comment on how they compare with Max.
TVR Cerbera
the most expensive one of course! imo you don't need Brembo max, you dont really need HC's. I use HC's as i got them quite cheap, but i've overheated them on a trackday, do i'm going grooved or drilled for the next set. was told by a supplier that HC's are marketing as all disc brakes have a high carbon level!
TVR Cerbera
I'm pretty certain there's very little difference between max and HC's, but the max are very pretty
Yeah pay an extra 60 odd quid for some fancy lines lol
George@RTR_Parts
ClioSport Trader
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I'm £45 for Brembo HC and £75 for Brembo Max. PM me if interested.
Cheers
George
Cheers
George
Dodgy one
Ive got to say ive not seen any benefit over braided lines in the past on much older French cars, Hence why i didnt do it on my 182,
Fitted Brembo HCs and Mintex M1144s and threw a fresh load of VW spec dot 4 and pressure bled it and they have so much power over OE it would put me through the window, I'm also able to make the ABS kick in the dry which i couldnt do before, They feel fine too.
Fitted Brembo HCs and Mintex M1144s and threw a fresh load of VW spec dot 4 and pressure bled it and they have so much power over OE it would put me through the window, I'm also able to make the ABS kick in the dry which i couldnt do before, They feel fine too.
TVR Cerbera
change your pads before touching anything else.
Mintex 1144's or 1155's or ds 2500. don't use green/red/yellow stuff
Clio 182
Thanx mate.
ian-speedy
ClioSport Club Member
clio cup race car
Or better again use the new bluestuff NDX , which are the best all round pad available today.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?547605-EBC-bluestuff-NDX-front-pads&highlight=
Cheers Ian
Dodgy one
I'd suggest stripping the calipers down, and regreasing the sliders too, I had the n/s caliper sticking for a while soon as i sorted it difference was night and day
TVR Cerbera
TBH until they prove themselves, i'll stick with ds2500's. they can't be any worse than greenstuff (ditchfinders)
ian-speedy
ClioSport Club Member
clio cup race car
if you do a search , you will find they have proven themselves , plenty of high powered Impreza's and Evo's running them now with very good results , until these came out , I would have recommended the DS2500's everytime , after running the NDX myself for the last 6 months , I will now recommend the bluestuff as the pad to go for
Please don't compare them with greens or reds , they are worlds apart
Please don't compare them with greens or reds , they are worlds apart
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