bike carbs ...

[robclio16v]

hiya guys ,i dont want a stupid reply like dont bother because i dont care what peoples opinions are., i just want the knowledge..

imgoing to run yammaha r1 bike carbs on my 2005 1.2 16v clio. anyway i understand changin to cable driven throttle etc,but if i disconect the standard fly by wire throttle and run a cable one, willmy car still run properly or will i need to go stand alone?

 

[Middo]

dont bother


you will need to modify the loom

 

[robclio16v]

ok mate thanks

 

[Inferno]

hiya guys ,i dont want a stupid reply like dont bother because i dont care what peoples opinions are., i just want the knowledge..

imgoing to run yammaha r1 bike carbs on my 2005 1.2 16v clio. anyway i understand changin to cable driven throttle etc,but if i disconect the standard fly by wire throttle and run a cable one, willmy car still run properly or will i need to go stand alone?

Carbs don't need an ECU mate.

 

[ben_p]

. edit, thought you ment r1 boddies not carbs

 

[robclio16v]

an r1 has bodies dont ir ,, i thaught all r1's had bodies ..

 

[Inferno]

Glad you changed that! Hayabusa's the only one on bodies isn't it?

 

[robclio16v]

yer im sure the yamaha r1 has carbs lol

 

[Inferno]

Looking about a bit they can have either depending on variant. You want to run bike carbs or throttle bodies? You said carbs in your first post?

http://www.pro-motive.co.uk/R1EngineData.html

 

[midge]

older bikes use carbs, only recently did they change to bodies

 

[iimushroomzii]

Thought you were turbo'ing it?

 

[Guppy]

Thought you were turbo'ing it?

+1

 

[172Ben]

Just buy a 172 engine?

 

[clio_cup]

They changed to bodies after 2001 if i remember correctly. I really wouldn't bother if i'm honest. I'm half way through putting R1 carbs on my 205 GTi and its a pain in the a**e. Its cost me about £450 so far and they will need setting up and constantly adjusting.

 

[172Ben]

Probably worth it power wise on a 205gti though, on a 1.2 would be abit silly really imo. Cost over power increase etc. Just drop a 172 in for cheaper and easier power

 

[powey]

The carbs/bodies from an R6 would be better for a 1.2, although for the hastle of it you might aswell fit proper bodies made for the car

 

[robclio16v]

yer i still got all the parts for boost here , im jus toying wiv the idea as i was looking through my garage and came across a set of r1 bodies , lol , but if its too much hassle then the boost will stay lol ,, i got loads to sort now tho wiv the car having a bumpa few weeks back ... but one good thing has come out of it ,lol ive left the mrs so i got all the time i want now thanks for the help guys and gals (if there are any)

 

[BenR]

I wouldnt say boosting was easier.

All you'll have to do is drop the fuel pressure, have a manifold made, install a cable throttle and convert to an ignition only standalone control as the ECU will wonder where half of the injection system has gone.

 

[rory182]

1998-2001 R1's were carb
1999-2002 R6's were carb

GSXR 1000's have always been Fuel Injected I think
1996-1997 GSXR 750's were carb
1997-2000 GSXR 600's were carb

 

[rory182]

R1 bodies?! that's fuel injection bodies and not a bank of carbs?

Would a Suzuki Bandit 1200 bank of carbs be a better match for your 1200cc engine?

 

[JW]

Best thing to do would go Igintion only ECU and get it setup properly to run them. Im not sure on what these 1.2 engines are like.. Can you run a dizzy of them?

Pretty sure R1 carbs are going to be too big as well.. I was going to run R6 on my old 1.6 TU engine.

 

[sideways danny]

Carbs don't need an ECU mate.

you need something to control the ignition, so you do need an ECU

 

[Inferno]

Would I have been better off saying that he won't need a programmable ECU?

 

[sideways danny]

Would I have been better off saying that he won't need a programmable ECU?

not really, the stock ECU wont cope.

 

[Inferno]

I was thinking more electronic ignition like MSD.

 

[robclio16v]

awwww so it is poss lol it would be nicelike, not so much about big power , but the sound lol id think atleast 120 bhp is poss with the right mods

 

[Hutchie]

r6 fly by wire bodies just plummed into standard ecu????

 

[The Boosh!]

Wow @ the steering wheel. bet that cost ££££ (its off the mini website link above)

 

[BenR]

How can you look at info if its constantly moving on the wheel?

 

[mini-valver]

Hacksaw a slot in the cam and run a dizzy

 

[stan*]

How can you look at info if its constantly moving on the wheel?

Tilt you head as you turn take a corner?

 

[JW]

Hacksaw a slot in the cam and run a dizzy

Haha

 

[robclio16v]

so basically it would be poosible using say , r6 bodies, custom manifold, and something like megasquirt to run the ignition ..

 

[JW]

so basically it would be poosible using say , r6 bodies, custom manifold, and something like megasquirt to run the ignition ..

Yes. Sounds simple... But it isnt.

 

[robclio16v]

could someone go into better detail for me then using r1/6 carbs,
id like this kind of spec :
. r1/r6 carbs on custom manifold
. convert to cable throttle
. megasquirt ecu to run ignition/timing side of things
. 4-2-1 manifold
. s/s decat back exhaust system
. raise compression slightly
. port an polished head with 3 angle valve seats etc

thanks for any info u can give guys and gals

oh and i did a lil research yes i kno what u ment some ran carbs and some ran bodies,.so im talking about earlier carbs thanks

 

[JW]

Pretty sure you will have to get a FPR and lower the pressure to run the carbs.