BIGASH/FF-Racing X85 Clio Cup Racer Project

[Chip-mk1]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Can anybody think of a header tank that I can use that will take a few more litres coolant than the standard one? The place doing the rad for next year suggested it to increase the capacity of water. I have trawled ebay for one but couldn't see anything that would do the job

You could just use two standard ones if you have space, flow out of one into the other.

TBH though more capacity is only going to delay it overheating not stop it, to stop it you need to cool better.

Do you run water wetter? If not that really helps on a borderline system.

 

[LeeP86]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Well done James proper chuffed for you!

 

[BIGASH]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Ahh okay I didn't even realise that was possible! It's only a temporary measure to test we can get the temps under control

Mmm okay well i'm yet to be able to get onto the ECU data but the DL1 shows 134 degree's so unfortunately it's not borderline

I'm going to try getting much more air to the rad and shroud around it! It didn't suffer any heat issues on the dyno which was odd

 

[BIGASH]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Well done James proper chuffed for you!

Thanks Lee Need to speak to you soon about something!

 

[LeeP86]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Thanks Lee Need to speak to you soon about something!

Cool. Any chance i can pinch that side on pic of the car showing the Apex sticker?

 

[Chip-mk1]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Ahh okay I didn't even realise that was possible! It's only a temporary measure to test we can get the temps under control

Mmm okay well i'm yet to be able to get onto the ECU data but the DL1 shows 134 degree's so unfortunately it's not borderline

I'm going to try getting much more air to the rad and shroud around it! It didn't suffer any heat issues on the dyno which was odd

Try water wetter too, might not solve the problem single handedly but will help.

 

[BIGASH]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Cool. Any chance i can pinch that side on pic of the car showing the Apex sticker?

Yeah course mate

Try water wetter too, might not solve the problem single handedly but will help.

Yes will get some as your about the 5th person to tell me it actually works

 

[shiftspark]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

James do you get trackcar magazine ? as they have done some articles on aerodynamics, some very good info on airflow into rads etc

 

[Chip-mk1]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Yes will get some as your about the 5th person to tell me it actually works

We used to use it 20 odd years ago when it first came out on the original minis with their side mounted rads.

Minis teach you a lot about cooling and rust, lol

 

[BIGASH]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

James do you get trackcar magazine ? as they have done some articles on aerodynamics, some very good info on airflow into rads etc

I don't unfortunately but I did research it yesterday and think I understand what I need to do to get the airflow across the whole rad but the execution of me making it with no fabrication stuff could be interesting lol!

We used to use it 20 odd years ago when it first came out on the original minis with their side mounted rads.

Minis teach you a lot about cooling and rust, lol

Haha at least I only have the cooling to worry about and not the rust lol!

 

[shiftspark]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

I will try and copy it and send it over.

Mini's and cooling , that was happy days

I don't unfortunately but I did research it yesterday and think I understand what I need to do to get the airflow across the whole rad but the execution of me making it with no fabrication stuff could be interesting lol!

Haha at least I only have the cooling to worry about and not the rust lol!

 

[Dan519]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Ahh okay I didn't even realise that was possible! It's only a temporary measure to test we can get the temps under control

Mmm okay well i'm yet to be able to get onto the ECU data but the DL1 shows 134 degree's so unfortunately it's not borderline

I'm going to try getting much more air to the rad and shroud around it! It didn't suffer any heat issues on the dyno which was odd

it's not that odd, opening the bonnet lets a lot of heat out. Jay noticed a difference in temps from being out front, or tucked in behind the leader too remember, so being mid field you'll see worse flow to the front of your car

 

[shiftspark]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Its trackdriver magazine and you can get it for the ipad etc

What was wrong with the ' super touring spec rad ' by the way ?

 

[Chip-mk1]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

it's not that odd, opening the bonnet lets a lot of heat out. Jay noticed a difference in temps from being out front, or tucked in behind the leader too remember, so being mid field you'll see worse flow to the front of your car

Yes it makes a massive difference if you are in the tow of another car or not, if you are right on the boot of the car in front of you the airflow is naff all.

 

[Fred@BTM]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

stop worrying about silly s**t, airflow and that b****cks, i've told you before, shut up and drive the f**king thing, leave all the technical stuff to me!

 

[Chip-mk1]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

stop worrying about silly s**t, airflow and that b****cks, i've told you before, shut up and drive the f**king thing, leave all the technical stuff to me!

FLOL

Epic way to talk to a customer

 

[Fred@BTM]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

only way to get them to listen LOL!

 

[Budgie]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Fred. Cutting the bullshit since the dawn of CS.

 

[IcemanUK]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Odd that it overheats ive never suffered with that on mine. I have changed the rad now but that was only because on a very hot day it ran hotter than normal.

As Fred says though

 

[Cup_Phil]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

I still don't believe the sensor - 130c is very hot - mine get's nowhere near that even with half an hour on track

 

[BIGASH]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

I will try and copy it and send it over.

Thanks mate

it's not that odd, opening the bonnet lets a lot of heat out. Jay noticed a difference in temps from being out front, or tucked in behind the leader too remember, so being mid field you'll see worse flow to the front of your car

That is true I hadn't thought of that!

stop worrying about silly s**t, airflow and that b****cks, i've told you before, shut up and drive the f**king thing, leave all the technical stuff to me!

Haha I love it when you all frisky Was just trying not to pester you and was trying to work out a solution lol! Rad can't be sorted properly, feasibly or in time for Oulton so trying to work with what we have

 

[BIGASH]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Odd that it overheats ive never suffered with that on mine. I have changed the rad now but that was only because on a very hot day it ran hotter than normal.

As Fred says though

Yes it is odd mate, mine does pull a lot of weight around so thats what I put it down to I think! Unfortunately I can't fit the same rad as you just have because of my PAS been in the original place

I still don't believe the sensor - 130c is very hot - mine get's nowhere near that even with half an hour on track

Yes thought the same originally but then it was correct on the dyno and the ECU and dash are showing the same temps

 

[Fred@BTM]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

it hasn't gone bang so just run it, as they say ooop north "be reet"

 

[Silent_Scone]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

LOL

 

[BIGASH]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

it hasn't gone bang so just run it, as they say ooop north "be reet"

Just trying to avoid it going bang lol

 

[Adam G]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Er be reet love as it's Leeds iirc.
Tha knows.
Leave it to Fred, I trust him.

 

[Fred@BTM]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

it goes bang = Zoltan fix

 

[Chip-mk1]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Just trying to avoid it going bang lol

Standard engine with some cams and arps isnt it?
Not exactly end of the world if it does go bang TBH, although obviously nicer if it doesnt, but dont let it ruin your racing worrying about something so easy to replace.

 

[Fred@BTM]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

^exactly

so then, about that £10K 10,000rpm 280bhp race engine for next year......................

 

[mharvey]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Have been reading this thread almost from the start and am yet to comment on it.
Saw the car when it was at Fred's though and have been following your progress and want to say congratulations on a brilliant result!!
Can only imagine with a bit of testing and half decent qualifying you'll do brilliantly. Look forward to hearing how it goes at Oulton.
Good Luck

 

[BIGASH]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Er be reet love as it's Leeds iirc.
Tha knows.
Leave it to Fred, I trust him.

Haha lol I trust him too!

it goes bang = Zoltan fix

lol

Standard engine with some cams and arps isnt it?
Not exactly end of the world if it does go bang TBH, although obviously nicer if it doesnt, but dont let it ruin your racing worrying about something so easy to replace.

Yeah I know it is Chip but I can't afford to be changing the engine No money left to keep spending on bits breaking

 

[BIGASH]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

^exactly

so then, about that £10K 10,000rpm 280bhp race engine for next year......................

Haha you want to finance that at 10p a month

Have been reading this thread almost from the start and am yet to comment on it.
Saw the car when it was at Fred's though and have been following your progress and want to say congratulations on a brilliant result!!
Can only imagine with a bit of testing and half decent qualifying you'll do brilliantly. Look forward to hearing how it goes at Oulton.
Good Luck

Thank you very much

Yes the car has got bags of potential now and can't wait to see what happens at Oulton

 

[Fred@BTM]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

^^ Holy hell - is that Fred driving?

No that was Yoz, i broke the camera when i went out, going too fast you see

 

[mark123]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Was it your water temp at 130 not oil? Surprised it didn't blow the cap off the header tank.

Or was it 103?

 

[BIGASH]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Yeah coolant temp 134 ! I know I was amazed it was still going lol

 

[Dan519]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

I've got doubts that the sensor has been calibrated to that high. It's probably a guessed scale over 100 ish

 

[Gray]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

My friend who ran an ITB'd PH-1 with the polo rad (not on the forum) bought a larger header tank from Merlin motorsport, an alloy 3L tank iirc to give more capacity.

He fabricated a frame to hold the tank, I'll try and get a photo of it.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Yeah coolant temp 134 ! I know I was amazed it was still going lol

How many lbs is your rad cap?

 

[Toastfrenzy]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

Great read and excellent result..James - Going to say it but TDF have well and truly ripped you off - I'd be going nuts if this was my car\money. Well done for the way you've carried on, must be v hard at times when one screw is turned and another problem appears.

 

[BIGASH]

Re: James/BigAsh 182 Race Car by TDF... It doesn't get much better than this! *Pic He

I've got doubts that the sensor has been calibrated to that high. It's probably a guessed scale over 100 ish

I didn't even realise that is possible mate! I've just taken it out of the housing and its reading 27 degree's i'm sure my garage isn't 27 degrees lol

Shall I try the boil a kettle approach?

Thanks

My friend who ran an ITB'd PH-1 with the polo rad (not on the forum) bought a larger header tank from Merlin motorsport, an alloy 3L tank iirc to give more capacity.

He fabricated a frame to hold the tank, I'll try and get a photo of it.

Ooo thanks for that mate I will have a look That would be ideal if you can get one thanks

How many lbs is your rad cap?

God knows mate its just standard

Great read and excellent result..James - Going to say it but TDF have well and truly ripped you off - I'd be going nuts if this was my car\money. Well done for the way you've carried on, must be v hard at times when one screw is turned and another problem appears.

Thanks Pete Haha lol it makes me sad thinking about the past so just trying to focus on sorting it out now and if the last few weeks are anything to go by then I will be happy but I think the old problems are coming back to haunt me with the CTS issue