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172 in a mk1, Superfatdan's very very long project....



So i've had this car for nearly 4 years. I bought it from a member on here, Brad Harding, back in sep 2008.

1993 K plate Clio 1.8 16v with a Hybrid 2.0 bottom end.

This project has taken a long time (and still isn't finished! lol) owing largely to the fact that I have two small children, a wife that will be ill for the rest of her life and two businesses. Basically, I don't get much time! But this car is my baby and I don't care if it takes another 4 years, as long as its done properly.

I first saw the car on here way before that and as soon as I did, I sent him a pm stating that i'd buy it as soon as he was going to sell it. Two years on, he pm'ed me and I jumped in my wifes car with my dad and was off to Leicester as fast as possible...

Now, whilst it was a nice looking car, I can honestly say I bought this thing with rose tinted glasses.

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SO I drove it round like that for about 6 months. I changed the headlights from the awful angel eyes back to the originals.

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Then one day whilst out with a mate, he uttered the fatal words.... ''IT doesn't feel as fast as your williams''

And he was right. I just put it down to (at the time) also owning a 320bhp M3 so the clio feeling naturally slower. But him saying it made me realise that something was a miss.

So I rang three different ''specialists'' in renaults about a throttle body conversion...

Now I'm a simple man with a simple outlook. I wanted someone to quote me, I drop car off, I go back after some time with a fist full of pound notes and I collect my newly built fire spitting bodied clio... But no. Not one of these ''specialists'' even bothered to quote me.

Oh well, their loss!

So it was decided (during some stupid piss up!) that me and my mechanicwould do the engine swap from a 172.

So I went and bought a ph1 172 from a member off here that had been written off (lightly!)

We then transferred the following bits into the mk1 shell...

172 engine, Gearbox, clutch, driveshafts, bottom arms, discs, calipers, radiator, alternator.... I basically wanted a 172 in a mk1 shell.

Whilst doing it, I hounded Jordan Fox and chris Whiteley (off here) as they had already done the conversion so massive massive respect to them. When I eventually meet them, the beers are on me! My mechanic hates renaults, I am a car valeter so in the grand scheme of things, we needed help! lol.

Eventually, after one evening a month over the period of a year, I ended up with my mk1 172...

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But things weren't right. The suspension was shot to s**t, the exhaust was bodged and tyres were horrific.

SO I went and got a custom exhaust built from the downpipe back, then ordered some FK konigsport suspension (williams fitment) and then did a deal with a guy on here for some TD Pro Races with nearly new PE2's in 195-50-15. Sorted.

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So I drove to work and back in it like that for about 6 months or so, covering about 1000 miles. There were a few niggles, but on the whole, it was good!
I figured out that the fuel pump wasn't up to the job, the suspension needed a pro to set it up properly and ideally It needed someone who knew 172's and mk1's to go over it.

Sadly, nobody was keen to help me so me and my track-day best mate decided that enough was enough, we'll do it ourselves!

My track day buddy is Sam, he's a lot younger than me, a lot cleverer than me and a lot more talented than me. And he's better looking... But he's a fcuking brilliant mate and has never given up on my car. He's come close a few times though..

Sam is the owner of this... http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...rly-finished&p=8636150&viewfull=1#post8636150

While up at my mechanics one day picking a car up, I decided to have a look at the clio's underside as (stupidly!) even when buying it, I had never done it.

Well that day was a day i'll never forget...

It was rotten! There was rust everywhere. Despite being told that the car had new sills and rear wings, it had infact been bodged together with filler and mastik. I was mortified.

So after a long think, I decided to buy a 172 and break the clio, there was nothing else I could do.

But then, Whiteley from this very forum advertised his bare shell, complete with cage.
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So I was watching it on ebay, it got to the last 10 seconds and I stuck in a cheeky bid...

But i'm a prick and lost it by £20. FFs. :(

Down trodden and disheartened, I just put the clio to the back of my mind and got on with life. Even bought myself an Impreza to cheer myself up!

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Then, out of the blue, the new owner of Whiteley's shell had a change of heart! :D:D:D He wanted to sell me the shell as he had too much going on to carry on with it.

So, with no hesitations, me and sam jumped in the truck and drove the (very!!) long way to get my new shell.

So thats as it stands, I have a fully functioning clio mk1 with a 172 engine but a rotten shell, and a 95% rust free shell with no running gear.

Current spec of Rusty Mc Rustbodge:

172 engine with aircon and Power steering delete.
Clio williams subframe, ARB and steering rack (with ends looped to get rid of power steering)
172 brakes with DS2500's, Brembo HC's
Braided lines
Espace V6 Airbox with ITG race element
FK Konigsport suspension
Single box exhaust with 2.75" bore from front to back. 3" tailpipe.
Custom Renaulsport Seat, 3" OMP harnesses
Ktec/Vibratec engine mounts
RS matched inlets

And the lovely new shell that its all going in to this saturday/sunday.

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I have booked a track day for the 7th of june and have booked two days off work this week to get the grey car re-shelled...

Got my work cut out! lol.

So plans are...

This weekend: Paint engine bay gloss black, reshell car, scrap grey shell after stripping it for spares.

Do a track day with Burpspeed on the 7th of june.

Get interior of car painted gloss black, exterior will either be painted in original mk1 16v grey or wrapped in satin grey, i'm not sure yet.

Then, next winter I want to supercharge it, but thats a long way off yet.

Apologies for the essay, I will update with more pictures after this weekends work.

(providing my wifes home from hospital on friday!!)

Much love.
 
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Re: 172 in a mk1, Superfastdan's very very long project....

good work sir (cheers for the pic) xxx
 
Re: 172 in a mk1, Superfastdan's very very long project....

Good work. Same suspension setup as I had on it. Where have you set the rear shocks out of the 3 positions? I ran them as firm as poss, made turn in a bit sharper and kept it lively.
 
Re: 172 in a mk1, Superfastdan's very very long project....

Mine aren't adjustable on the back... :S
 
Re: 172 in a mk1, Superfastdan's very very long project....

Did they come with the Konigsports? They will be if so. No obvious external adjuster. From memory, slide the black dust cover out the way, then on the top of the shock there should be a cap that's removeable. Under there is a push button, push that in then twist the shock while holding the button in. Should be 3 noticeable clicks. Assembly is the opposite of removal etc!

Edit, these are the same as the instructions that came with mine http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/beatjunkie98/koni2.jpg
 
Re: 172 in a mk1, Superfastdan's very very long project....

I never knew that!! lol. You sent me the link from venom iirc. Either you or Jord.

I never read instructions, i'm terrible.

I'll look next week! (Yes, I am fully retarded)
 
Re: 172 in a mk1, Superfastdan's very very long project....

They will be then, definitely. The ones that come with the Highsport's are fixed damping.
 
Hey guys, I too am about to do a 172 into a valver shell. Just a quick question if I may? If i use the the 172 lower arms can I still get away with using the original valver trackrod ends? I've heard they may be too short? Great work getting all that done in a weekend!!! Thanks for any help and good luck!
 
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Hey guys, I too am about to do a 172 into a valver shell. Just a quick question if I may? If i use the the 172 lower arms can I still get away with using the original valver trackrod ends? I've heard they may be too short? Great work getting all that done in a weekend!!! Thanks for any help and good luck!

Hi mate. I have used Williams rod ends and tbh, they are wound out very far so I doubt the valver ones will be long enough. I could be wrong though.
 
Just read this, looking great. Giving me dirty thoughts of getting an old 19 16v again though and sticking (well, getting someone else to) a 172 lump in it.
 
Nope!

I have ordered (and recieved) Seat Ibiza rad, uprated fan, New seat mounts. I'm still waiting for my bias valve, brake lines and fixings etc. Once i've got all that, i'll spend a weekend fitting that little lot then its just wiring to do which I will pass to somebody else. Hopefully TDF as i've heard good things. Just don't know if they'd be willing to put their name to my crappy mk1! lol.
 
So not a huge amount left but not going to be done for llandow still I guess?

You just need a reasonable auto electrician for what you're doing really rather than tdf I would think, cost wise etc.
 
MY auto electrician (we call him matt eh magician) won't touch it. Sadly.

It won't be ready for llandow, I know this because I've already bought a car for the occasion! lol.

I don't want to rush the mk1. I did that first time round and I ended up with a lot of bits I wasn't happy with. I won't be making that mistake again.
 
Can totally relate to that.
Thats exactly why I'm not sure mine will be there as I dont want to get it there by cutting corners. I'll save that for on the track, lol
 
What's happening with this then? Will it make it to the trackday you booked?

Also what's under here on the cav turbo wheels?

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It won't be ready for llandow, I know this because I've already bought a car for the occasion! lol.

I don't want to rush the mk1. I did that first time round and I ended up with a lot of bits I wasn't happy with. I won't be making that mistake again.

What's happening with this then? Will it make it to the trackday you booked?

Also what's under here on the cav turbo wheels?

My mechanic Rob has two Cavalier Turbo's. Both completely standard minters.
 
Ah, come to think of it, I remember reading that first time round. Tiredness is my excuse.

And 2? That's just greedy, perhaps he should give me one.
 
He's selling one of them but his main one he's had for about 7 years. Its stunning! I'll get some pics of it next time i'm up there.
 
Dan, whats the details on the cav turbo? My brother is in the market for one, whats the transfer box and bodywork like? any good?
 
No idea mate. I've got more than enough going on in my life without worrying about selling other peoples cars for them! lol.

Sorry mate.
 
I can imagine mate, well if you get the opportunity to get some further details or have some contact details for the guy, then if you wouldnt mind passing them on it would be muchly appreciated
 
Just read through this whole thread, awesome stuff. Shame it won't be ready for track but can understand where your coming from. No point doing a job twice. I actually remember seeing this shell on ebay a while back. Looking forward to you next update.
 
Looks like there won't be a single proper clio at llandow now then. Mine isn't done either :(
unless russ can make it.
 
Russ is having oil pressure issues. Suspected pump.

Thankfully he has a spare Williams so there will be 1 mk1 representing! lol.
 
Just read this dan. Well. Your first post of thread. Hope everything goes to plan. Look forward to reading updates on this.
 
If you decide to go aftermarket now so that it makes it easier to then progress more with it long term let me know and I can come up and help you wire it in and get it running.
 


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