1.6 16v upgrades

[ben lee]

i have a clio 1.6 16v rsi what cheap angine up grades ar there?

would it be possible to use parts from the 1.8 16v moter in the laguna as it looks identical.
would the cams be diffrent ?
or is it just a board out 1600?

would the top 1/2 of a 172 inlet manifold fit with trottle bodie bigger boar plus moves it away from the exhaust manifold.

dose anyone do cams or 4 branch manifold for the rsi?
also is there a throttle boddie kit out for an rsi? or turbo kit?

 

[MT AUDIO]

cant remember which but kent or piper do cams for it im sure

 

[theduck]

if your going to tune the K4M engine then you need a big wallet. It is a very good base engine but it needs a lot of money spending on it to get the power out of it.

 

[ben lee]

whats the main diss advantage? the managment?

would love to fit throttle boddies.

the just sound awsome built a vauxhall ecotec with throttle boddies im also building a nova redtop with throttle boddies.
would love to have my rsi on throttle boddies too.

 

[sideways danny]

Cat-cams do cams for the K4M.

 

[theduck]

you would need aftermarket management, you'd need custom inlet making, to make the most of it and rev the engine higher and harder you would need a stronger bottom end, again it would need cams aswell. In theory you could get it to 220bhp as its the same base engine as the super1600 rally car

http://www.renault-sport.com/en/rallye/competition_client/technique.php

 

[mini-valver]

I'm running catcams and Vems ECU in mine.

www.catcams.be

The stock bottom end is good for 7500 rpm (mines set there). See my project thread for info!

 

[sideways danny]

remembered about this thread when i spotted a 1.6 16v twingo in a mag today. The inlet looks a huge improvement over the old over the exhaust manifold throttle assembly. Doubt there's many about, but worth looking into maybe

 

[BioHzrd]

Im looking out for a smashed Twingo RS but they will be few and far between for a good year or two so i can scavange some bits from it for mine.....

 

[sideways danny]

might check renault parts database on monday

 

[Brett]

Im looking out for a smashed Twingo RS but they will be few and far between for a good year or two so i can scavange some bits from it for mine.....

Bloody hell mate theres only a handful off the forcourt. Although atleast one or two will go over winter. Grab the exhaust manifold of the twingo rs its so good renault patented it.

 

[BioHzrd]

Inlet Manifolds what i really want.

 

[Alan]

Inlet Manifolds what i really want.

What did yours get on the rollers that day?

 

[BioHzrd]

112.2Hp and 108.8lbf.ft

And i want MORE !! lol

 

[Oliver_K4M]

Bloody hell mate theres only a handful off the forcourt. Although atleast one or two will go over winter. Grab the exhaust manifold of the twingo rs its so good renault patented it.

The exhaust manifold with its integrated catalytic converter is good if you take in account that the engine is able to do EuroV, but that´s all.
When you read the performance data 160Nm at 4,400rpm and 133hp at 6,750rpm you know why.
I also tuned my K4M-720 engine with catcams, F4R-throttle, 4-1 supersprint exhaust collector, 200 cell cat, 60mm exhaust system, a combination of the 57i-hose with a cup airbox and remap and I got dyno-tested 133hp at 5,990rpm and 178Nm at 4,290rpm.
I did nothing to the intake manifold, but this is the next step I plan.

So if I had a Twingo RS, I would get a 182 exhaust-manifold (4-2-1) with cat, weld a K4M-specific flange-plate to it and install it, believe me, this would shift the torque maximum 1,000rpm lower and 10Nm higher!

 

[mini-valver]

Mine made 140bhp on RStunings rollers the other day. Power curve is SO SO linear too even with short runners and the wildest cams I can on Hydraulic lifters, lol...

 

[ben lee]

dose anyone make a throttle boddie manifold?

my plans would be fit some arp rod bolts 7750rpm limit cams verniers head work throttle boddies mbe managment 4-2-1 manifold no cat and 2 1/4 exhaust system.

to start with then would build a strong bottom end pocket pistions solid valve train lightend flywheel uprated clutch and gearbox.

 

[ben lee]

vauxhall can get there 1.6 16v (16xe) to 220bhp 14l0bft running throttle boddies .
engines a close match to the renault 1.6 16v.

 

[Chrisjk]

http://www.boggbros.co.uk/ Those are the guys to talk to re:manifold.

 

[ben lee]

yea just been onto there site a second ago.

 

[theduck]

Renaults 1.6 16v is the base engine for the super1600 rally car so can produce 200bhp

 

[Brett]

Shame its a ball ache to tune isnt it. I mean the engine in the saxo vts/106 gti engines tune realy well with just breathing mods for instance but overall the renault engine is probably more tunable.

 

[theduck]

the VTS/GTi though is designed to be a sports car from the outset, the 1.6 clio isnt

 

[Brett]

the VTS/GTi though is designed to be a sports car from the outset, the 1.6 clio isnt

Fair comment, but my point was that the clio engine is more tunable just much harder to tune and therefore not realy worth it.

 

[theduck]

there has been little development work done on the renault 1.6 16v engine though, because the renault sport cars have never used it.

 

[rsifoxy]

wasnt the rsi designed to be a sports model??

 

[theduck]

not at all. the RSi was just a normal mk2 ph1 with a 1.6 engine. may have had slightly firmer suspension but was far from a proper 'sport'.

 

[rsifoxy]

im not sure have an rsi now its a different car all together from other clios iv driven ( apart from the 2.0, which i agree is totally different) doesnt rsi stand fror renault SPORTS injection

 

[mini-valver]

Yeah but they make a 1.2 Sport. Doesnt make it a sport orientated car.


The GTi/VTS was the flagship model, the fastest in the range. The RSi, was not.