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Who has made a Clio Cup Race Car road legal?
- Thread starter nightSpirit
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Radical SR3
I'm keeping the car under wraps until I get it sorted
I think I'm going to go for it though...too tempting not to.
Radical SR3
Thank you, I will. Planning to view the thing early December and then work out from there. I have the IVA manual and also the MOT one to look through now....fun times! I am wondering if the stock Trophy dash shows speed? What is the digital panel for? Thoughts on either a stack or AEM digi dash? Could use that for all manner of things. Alternative would be to use the stock gauge (kph though, so would need conversion) and add a few 2" gauges to monitor temps.
Radical SR3
Not a particularly accurate or useful comment Goodj. The car would be used for occasional weekend fun and maybe the odd trip to Brands or the Ring (on a trailer) but that's all...I just love the cars, can afford one and want one. I have a 350/350 Megane RS for daily duties and most track outings and I also have a C63 Edition 507 that now spends most of its time in a showroom (bought it new in 2015, modified it, did 8 track days and thought 'done that').
no, it doesn't show speed (theres nothing in the car to measure it either!). the digi dash shows RPM, throttle vale opening, barrel potentiometer voltage, gear engaged, intake pressure, water temp, air temp, battery voltage, oil pressure, O2 probe correction and diagnostic data. Annoyingly its only got 1 button and its on a cycle basis so you have to press it loads of times to get the info needed. very hard to do when your strapped in!
I found it best to leave it on the water temperature to keep an eye on things, but then you never really know what gear your in...fine on the circuit, bit trickier when you get back to the paddock!
You could replace with a stack dash or similar - or you could add a simple 3rd party speedo?
I have seen both done before. If your a member of v6clio.net, check out the trophy register. Trophy cars #79 and #129 have both been converted to road legal use in Japan (they don't need a VIN over there so its a bit easier!). There's loads of photos of both cars in the register, they have both dealt with the speedo/dash differently. One lives with original, ones been totally replaced.
Radical SR3
Thanks for the advise. I've checked out those cars and one has a simple digital reader and the other a Dash2/Stack/AEM setup. I guess it depends which makes most sense as getting a panel on the cross beam for warning lights, fuel gauge and additional switches (to preserve the stock switch bank) with a simple SPA digital speedo would be lower tech easy than a digital dash but a digital dash would be a lot more convenient for warning lights and data/speedo etc. I could do the easy solution myself but the digital dash would require an expert I think??
A lot will depend on the car itself and what the secondary ECU is capable of...looking forward to the challenge though. The Meg is kind of almost where I want it now as a road/track contender.
Radical SR3
Same apply to a v6 Trophy I assume? Why would it be dangerous...suspension harsh you mean? My old Radical was dangerous but the Trophy is hardly that, suspension can be adjusted
I would imagine the v6 trophy is the same I can't see any reason why it would be any more mellow than a 182 racer.
And adjustment on the suspension of a cup racer with the spring rates they have would be like softest settings being a brain hemmorhage to stiffest being spine snapping. I found a really old post from a well known guy on here "Fred@Btm" he's referring to a cup racer suspension setup a guy managed to find and wanted to buy :
bilstein kit, its harder than a p**n star with a months worth of viagra, i drove for 2000miles around europe with cup racer kit on board (yoz's clio) plus a few thousand miles up and down the M6, i've so far spent nigh on £500 on chiropractor sessions (and i'm being 100% serious)
its not designed for a road car, and it does break quite often (rear rose joints snap)
Plus, you should absolutely scrap the idea of a v6 trophy and get this instead:
https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/85155/renault-supertouring-e1-2000ccm
The guy basically put everything from an ex Laguna touring car into a 182
https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/85155/renault-supertouring-e1-2000ccm
The guy basically put everything from an ex Laguna touring car into a 182
massiveCoRbyn
ClioSport Club Member
Several
A spring and damper change would sort a Clio Cup car. I believe the phase 1 V6 road cars are supposed to be a bit lively, let alone the race car, but a spring/damper change and some fine tuning would sort that I'm sure.
Well in regards to the 182 racers, you couldn't just swap the springs and dampers out for any off the shelf 182 coilover kit as they have modified hubs and various other things to accommodate the bilstein setup. They use a concoction of different Renault parts(including iirc Laguna driveshafts), and if you reverted all that back to standard to run a standard suspension setup well..
the cup racers suspension and gearbox setup are basically the heart and soul of what makes it a cup racer, it would be like paying the premium for a turbocharged Clio just to convert it back to n/a.
May aswell just build your own Clio and put a sadev in it.
massiveCoRbyn
ClioSport Club Member
Several
No, but you could easily have a set of dampers made to suit. Most suspension companies would be willing to do it. @EVOgone has Reiger on his rally car which are obviously at the top end of the market, but Avo would do a set for about £1k. You can buy the cars for around £10k, so not that much in the context of it.
Spending 10k on a cup racer to remove 4k's worth of suspension, to then spend another 1k on some custom built stuff that you have no certainty of how good it's going to be still seems like an ass about face way of doing things to me.
I still think you'd be much better off just building your own track clio and adding a sadev.
massiveCoRbyn
ClioSport Club Member
Several
You pays your money, takes your choice. The used Billies (I think that's what they are) aren't going to be worth £4k. With the Cup car you benefit from the beefy uprights etc, as well as the cage and fancy dash. Their are many ways to skin a cat of course. My point was that it's very easily possible.
It's about £12,000 for a sadev!!
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
About £3k used i think.
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
The one Nick from Pure was selling from his car was about £3k iirc
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Quick car, seen it a few times in time attack.
Radical SR3
Loving that but 65k EUR? erm no...Plus, you should absolutely scrap the idea of a v6 trophy and get this instead:
https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/85155/renault-supertouring-e1-2000ccm
The guy basically put everything from an ex Laguna touring car into a 182
Radical SR3
Thanks for the replies guys!
The car is on custom ohlins at the moment and I have Intermotiv down the road from me who have already made custom valved dampers and spring setup for me in the past He'll make any spec you require so I may just get some custom road dampers made up and keep the ohlins for track.
I'm off to view the car next weekend, if I decide to go through with it I'll be sure to post more about it. I think I'm set on the approach to getting it on the road (handbrake and emmissions being the most difficult bits in my mind)...we'll see how stiff it is. The Radical (which was f**king terrible on the road...really REALLY bad) was on 3 way adjustable intrax iirc, fully rose jointed, not an ounce of give anywhere and it didn't bother me on the road in terms of bumps, it was the way it hunted camber and tried to pull me under any lorry passing on the other side of the road that did it.
The car is on custom ohlins at the moment and I have Intermotiv down the road from me who have already made custom valved dampers and spring setup for me in the past
He'll make any spec you require so I may just get some custom road dampers made up and keep the ohlins for track. I'm off to view the car next weekend, if I decide to go through with it I'll be sure to post more about it. I think I'm set on the approach to getting it on the road (handbrake and emmissions being the most difficult bits in my mind)...we'll see how stiff it is. The Radical (which was f**king terrible on the road...really REALLY bad) was on 3 way adjustable intrax iirc, fully rose jointed, not an ounce of give anywhere and it didn't bother me on the road in terms of bumps, it was the way it hunted camber and tried to pull me under any lorry passing on the other side of the road that did it.
Radical SR3
For those who have winged at me for not showing pics and all that...new thread here after viewing the car today.
'Something a Bit Special For The Weekend' over in projects.
'Something a Bit Special For The Weekend' over in projects.
