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I’ve turned into an old man... kinda



So yeah it is time for the focus to go back to ford and whilst I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it over the last 3 years and the blue one 3 years prior to that - 6 years paying for a new car that have done 28k and 16k respectively I just can’t justify getting a new one (plus the new ST isn’t out yet).

So I went to find something else that would fit my ever fussy criteria.

I’ve ended up with this...

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Rare as rocking horse s**t and should keep me entertained for a few months.

Never thought I’d buy a Mercedes - such an old mans car! Just with a big ol’ V8 up front 😬

Pick it up Saturday - got to travel the country and probably miss the rugby 😔
 

cat171

ClioSport Club Member
Wicked!!
Is it the cheaper or expensive road tax ? and it is the era of dodgy electrics ?
 
Get out of my way, peasants!!

Do you not like having money in your bank account and/or think Shell/Bp don't make enough profit? lol
Haha 😂

This is saving me money considering how much that focus costs a month.
Plus part of my criteria was I do 8 miles a day - fuel costs aren’t a problem 😈

Probably does have dodge electrics and it’s expensive tax £500 ish?
5.5 V8 though - who cares?
 
Get the exhaust sorted so everyone knows it's not a stinky diesel.
I don’t care if people think it’s a stinky diesel lol.

When I put my foot down it will prove that.

I was tempted by the 55AMG but you only gain stiffer suspension, a less powerful hand built engine and double twin exhausts out the back

And they’re worth more apparently.

These are more rare though which could be good or bad lol
 

JoePeps

ClioSport Club Member
  M2,XJS,S1000RR
Is this a high miler from around Derby / Notts? If so I've been tempted by it!
 

TomSx

ClioSport Club Member
Really like these. Welcome to old man merc ownership albeit mine is even more pipe and slippers 😂
 

Cribert

ClioSport Club Member
  Cup 172
I loved the e class i owned but it definitely felt fragile compared to a bmw.

Hopefully it doesn’t cost too much
 
I loved the e class i owned but it definitely felt fragile compared to a bmw.

Hopefully it doesn’t cost too much
It’s not fragile, they just skimped on the cost of a really really important idler pulley on the timing chain assembly. So it’s made this super reliable engine that is quite literally bomb proof into a ticking time bomb.

I’m hoping as it has full MB service history and they fixed the material in the later engines that I can get Mercedes to front up and pay to get it replaced. But I think that may be a long shot
 

KielT

ClioSport Club Member
  Arctic 182, GTD
Out of curiousity. What has made you come up with the diagnosis that the chain needs to be replaced?
Any fault codes etc?
 
Out of curiousity. What has made you come up with the diagnosis that the chain needs to be replaced?
Any fault codes etc?
Common fault in the m272/3 engines that the centre sprocket that runs the balance shaft is made out of cheese, no balance shaft on a V8 but the sprocket is there as they’re the same engine, fault codes indicative of a stretched chain are p0016 or p0017 which are camshaft timing issues.

It’s unlikely the chain has stretched as they’re a lifetime item (although it’s not unheard of) so I’m assuming it’s the sprocket.

Couple that with the fact my engine number is before they changed the material of the sprocket it’s looking likely.
 

KielT

ClioSport Club Member
  Arctic 182, GTD
Ok, Only reason I ask is we have worked on a few V6 and a V8 before with EML's and other garages saying timing chain etc. But those codes are kind of misleading in the sense that they because they relate the camshaft sensors not correlating with each other, but can also relate to the camshaft magnets. You are right with regards to the balance shaft guide sprocket, and the fact they do wear. The timing chains do stretch but only ever seen it on the 651 engine so far.
But I would be tempted to check the sensors out etc on a STAR machine before taking the plunge and getting the engine out to do the chain, tensioner and guide sprocket.
Thats obviously if you haven't already. Only voicing my opinion of course as I've seen a few people make the big mistake before,
 
Ok, Only reason I ask is we have worked on a few V6 and a V8 before with EML's and other garages saying timing chain etc. But those codes are kind of misleading in the sense that they because they relate the camshaft sensors not correlating with each other, but can also relate to the camshaft magnets. You are right with regards to the balance shaft guide sprocket, and the fact they do wear. The timing chains do stretch but only ever seen it on the 651 engine so far.
But I would be tempted to check the sensors out etc on a STAR machine before taking the plunge and getting the engine out to do the chain, tensioner and guide sprocket.
Thats obviously if you haven't already. Only voicing my opinion of course as I've seen a few people make the big mistake before,
Hey I’m more than happy to take recommendations if it means not taking an engine out lol.

There are a few checks I can do to see if the timing chain has stretched apparently that are fairly easy. If they reveal a stretched chain then I may just change it for piece of mind anyway, from what I’ve read it isn’t difficult, just time consuming.

Suppose I could chuck a star machine on it but I begrudge paying main dealers and don’t know anyone with a machine - be great if I did as there are a few options I want enabled lol
 

KielT

ClioSport Club Member
  Arctic 182, GTD
Yeah, to be honest the likely hood of you being able to see any of the chain links stretched is slim. The chain itself if relatively easy to change as you link it pull through, but as said if it is definately is the guide sprocket then engines got to come out.

So there is no decent independent Mercedes Specialists around your way that can test it out?

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So camshaft sensors are £130.00 + VAT each genuine A2129050043 & magnet solenoids are £19.40 + VAT each genuine.

You could always try and swap the magnets and sensors to the other bank and see if the fault follows, if it does then sensors / magnets first. If it doesn't then obviously its the bigger chain / sprocket job.

Sorry I can't be much more help.
 


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