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Too old for a Cliosport? Haha f**k off!

You have to laugh at people saying the Golf is heavy. If the information I've just read is correct, it weighs 1328Kg. Not that heavy at all! Besides which, if it's mapped to 240bhp, that's 183bhp/ton. I won't even mention the torque. End of the day, the Clio would only be on a par with a...

I was also quoted 6 hours when mine was done. A crate of Stella usually helps.....as for tools, being a total non-mechanic I wouldn't have a f**king clue.

It won't fail an MOT just because of a missing VIN plate if that's your worry. As long as the chassis number is visible, it doesn't matter. The car has surely had a smash though because why would anyone remove it otherwise?

Those aren't real times though are they? The folloing are all on test: Evo magazine: Phase1 172 - 18.2 Trophy - 17.3 182FF - 17.5 172cup - 17.7 172 - 18.9 Autocar: 197 - 17.7 182FF - 17.0 (6.3 to 60mph).

I've never driven a 172 but I can't imagine there's much difference. Quicker to 60mph is pure pub-talk, you won't feel a difference when there's barely half a second between them. I had a Saxo Vts (very light mods, manifold and head) and my cup doesn't feel any quicker except at high speeds...

I'm on the brink of selling the cup due to the problems I've had. It's an absolute money pit, every time it goes wrong it costs me hundreds of quid. Had it 18 months and I reckon I've thrown almost £1800 on repairs plus £400 quid for 4 new tyres when I bought it. w**k. Fantastic fun car...

Just a quick update on this, I called a second Renault garage to clarify the cost and when I asked them if they were perhaps confusing the 172 with the 172cup they told me it was still a 3 hour job on the cup because the front bumper has to come off! WTF!

For a 172 cup. Been quoted £399 fitted (exchange) through Renault. Renault say it's a lengthy job but I've done a search on here and people are saying it's 1.5 hours max. For parts only they quoted £170 so they must be charging 3 hours labour. What have other people paid? Any advice?

But cars have tested quicker, 6.5 for the cup.

6.3 does seem a bit quick but at the end of the day, are we going to argue with figures that are in black and white? Also, Evo magazine have tested various Cliosport models at 6.5 yet many people will still say the car is 6.8 or even 7 seconds to 60mph. Maybe some people get mixed up with 0-62mph.

Just as a point of reference, there is a Cliosport buyers guide in Performance Car this month. Says the set up on the 182cup is slightly stiffer than the 172cup!? Not sure if that's correct or not. Take a look, it's a good read. Oh, and I'd get a 172cup hence I own one!

Cheers guys, I had a feeling that would be the answer.

Is my blue 172cup the exact same colour as the blue used on the 182? There is a chance I might want to replace the drivers door and wanted to know whether a door off a 182 would go straight on should one become available?

Yeah, saw the ph1, seemed to have orange (or red) wing mirrors !? All 3 looked mint! ;)

In convoy on A38 heading into Derby. Sunday 22nd Feb? Anyone on here? (I was in me Golf, grrrrrrrr!)

Depends where you look, EVO have the cup172 as the car with the highest power to weight.

I'll start. I reckon I'd piss all over Chitty Chitty Bang Bang! :D

37 posts, blah, blah, blah. Have you read the entire thread? By the way, I joined just after you did last year and I had a previous user name (not that it even matters).

A real storm in a tea-cup aren't you spunk bubble !? The only problem here is the standard of your English. Do you have learning difficulties? If you can't express yourself like a normal human being then that's your problem not mine. Maybe you could get your carer to type it up next time. As...

The standard Cooper S (MK2) is 175bhp (1.6 turbo) and if you think it's 'way quicker' than a 172Cup you're wrong. If you disagree, lets see your 'FACTS'. I expect the JCW model would be quicker from around 60 onwards.

The other day I noticed a small pool of water on the floor after the car had been stood with the engine running a while (from cold). After a quick look round today, I've noticed that water is dripping from a join on the exhaust? Why would that be and do I need to do something about it ...

It's a 53 plate to the person who asked - 32,000 miles. Garage it is then......before something breaks!

More like a thumping noise on full lock and doesn't do it all the time. Sounds terrible, I thought I'd hit a pot-hole the first time I heard it! Any ideas?

Nearly happened to mine this, my car has only done 30,000 but is 5 years old. Just had new belt, tensioner and pulleys fitted after hearing a clacking noise coming from the engine. Turns out the tensioner had given up cost me £500.

Just laugh and tell him his car is w**k! :cool:

I think we all know the Cup is the quicker car. According to EVO it was 0.3secs quicker to 60mph which bascially means if you drive the car to it's potential you should win. But also, expect to lose if you fluff things even slightly.

The phase1 VTRs (with the square headlights) were all 90bhp but the later models with the 'tear drop' headlights were all 98bhp. There was a slight overlap when the face lift model came out but I'm not sad enough to remember the exact year....I'm sure someone on here is though! ;)

Agreed. Uk car is a fat mess. (sorry I can't be any more constructive but when you compare it to the JDM it gets it's arse spanked in every way).

Buy a copy of Evo and check out the stats at the back - should give you an idea as to what it's on a par with.