Oil Changes at home - pumping out via the dipstick...

conanius · Oct 6, 2019

I might have gone mad, so ignore if this is sheer stupidity.

It's been a while since I serviced my own cars, and I'm wanting to do some fluid changes on the Clio to keep it nice and fresh.

I'm going to grab the pack from RPD but I'm sure when I had my s2000 the latest way for people to do changes and avoid mashing up the sump plug was to pump the old oil out via the dipstick hole.

is this a thing on the clio, or have I lost my mind and imagined this entire experience...

JamesBryan · Oct 6, 2019

Not worth the effort, just crack the drain plug off.

bloke · Oct 6, 2019

can be done.

David172 · Oct 6, 2019

Sounds like a way of making a very easy job much more annoying for no reason? The sup plugs seem pretty robust.

The gearbox oil is difficult enough lol.

Djw John · Oct 6, 2019

Perfectly possible but just a faff imo.

I prefer to drop the plug when the oil is roasting as well to get as much as possible out.

bloke · Oct 6, 2019

you get just as much out through dipstick tube as you do dropping it out.

R3k1355 · Oct 6, 2019

Plenty easy, oil needs to be upto temperature to make it easier to get out.

Saves bothering to jack the car up

Djw John · Oct 6, 2019

bloke said:
you get just as much out through dipstick tube as you do dropping it out.

Does it not depend if your lucky and the tube goes to the lowest bit?

bloke · Oct 6, 2019

push tube in as normal and it's fine. did one before i took sump off to see how much it does actually get out and was pretty much bone dry.

DrR · Oct 6, 2019

I’m confused how you lot are finding it easier to Jack the car up, take the undertray off, remove sump plug, get new washer then refit as being easier than sticking a tube in the dipstick and sit back and relax while the pump sucks the oil out.

Djw John · Oct 6, 2019

For me it's because I never put the engine undertray back on and have 2 bits of wood that are the perfect height to drive on to. The longest bit of oil changes is defo waiting on it all draining.

Iain C · Oct 6, 2019

I thought of this too. Mainly cos i hate getting under the car.

conanius · Oct 7, 2019

Glad I wasn't going mad and imagining this was a thing !

What tool do you lot use for it? I assume process is:

- Have warm oil
- Pump oil out
- Replace Oil Filter
- Pour oil back in

?

Louis · Oct 7, 2019

DrR said:
I’m confused how you lot are finding it easier to Jack the car up, take the undertray off, remove sump plug, get new washer then refit as being easier than sticking a tube in the dipstick and sit back and relax while the pump sucks the oil out.

Just drive up the kerb, over the drain and undo the sump plug.

No jacking required

Fletcher · Oct 7, 2019

I have one of these Pela pumps It works well tbh, and is easy to use. I only use it to do oil changes on the fabia as I can’t be arsed to remove the under trays.

botfch · Oct 7, 2019

Done it multiple times on various cars with an electric pump, never had any issues.
Also means you can pump the old oil straight into a container and not piss about with a funnel.

Older version of this I think is what I've got.

Clarke CFTP12 12V Oil And Diesel Pump - Machine Mart - Machine Mart

www.machinemart.co.uk

Shocker · Oct 12, 2019

Make sure you guys don’t get the oil to hot
I once made the mistake of pumping out oil from my s5 after a very hard run
After it was nearly drained the plastic sooker body went a little soft with the heat and imploded spraying oil all over the place

Cub. · Oct 12, 2019

Shocker said:
Make sure you guys don’t get the oil to hot
I once made the mistake of pumping out oil from my s5 after a very hard run
After it was nearly drained the plastic sooker body went a little soft with the heat and imploded spraying oil all over the place

Brigsy · Oct 13, 2019

Ive used a good quality vac pump on all my cars for oil changes via dipstick hole for last 15 years. No more mess and it gets the lot out, as much as taking the plug out.

Took the sump off a gtt engine that i had changed the oil via dipstick for around 70k and no sludge buildup or nowt.

Brigsy · Oct 13, 2019

This is the one i use, good for sucking brake fluid out too, can reverse bleed

Sealey TP69 6.5ltr Manual Vacuum Oil and Fluid Extractor: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

Free delivery and returns on all eligible orders. Shop Sealey TP69 6.5ltr Manual Vacuum Oil and Fluid Extractor.

www.amazon.co.uk

Djw John · Oct 13, 2019

Mmm, interesting reading! Maybe it's time to try it out.
Do you have to keep pumping it or does it start siphoning it out itself?

Martin. · Oct 14, 2019

Watched a test video on this recently, can't remember what it was on. But the summary was that the pump kits work well and are good to use, IF you are happy leaving a tiny amount at the bottom of your sump.

Removing the sump plug retrieved more ML of oil.

I would not be happy with leaving anything in there myself. I want as much out as possible. But I have extreme OCD.

DrR · Oct 14, 2019

Djw John said:
Mmm, interesting reading! Maybe it's time to try it out.
Do you have to keep pumping it or does it start siphoning it out itself?

just get an electric one, they connect to the car batter. Have to wiggle the pipe about in the dipstick to get the last dregs out but works well enough.

Matt e · Oct 14, 2019

R3k1355 · Oct 14, 2019

Djw John said:
Mmm, interesting reading! Maybe it's time to try it out.
Do you have to keep pumping it or does it start siphoning it out itself?

Use an electric one, they're cheap as f**k on eBay.

Brigsy said:
Took the sump off a gtt engine that i had changed the oil via dipstick for around 70k and no sludge buildup or nowt.

Should there even be sludge or debris in the oil pan tho? Isn't that a pretty bad sign?

Coops Mk1 · Oct 14, 2019

takes seconds to jack up car and remove sump plug, under tray stays on as theres a cap on is specifically for that.

for piece of mind I'll stick to what I know

Brigsy · Oct 14, 2019

R3k1355 said:
Should there even be sludge or debris in the oil pan tho? Isn't that a pretty bad sign?

Debris is always a bad sign that you will need to spend money soon. Only ever seen bad sludge build up when the engine has been poorly serviced.

Brigsy · Oct 14, 2019

Martin. said:
Watched a test video on this recently, can't remember what it was on. But the summary was that the pump kits work well and are good to use, IF you are happy leaving a tiny amount at the bottom of your sump.

Removing the sump plug retrieved more ML of oil.

I would not be happy with leaving anything in there myself. I want as much out as possible. But I have extreme OCD.

A lot of the sumps have a raised part internally where the sump plug thread is, you will never get all the oil out removing the sump plug

Prob get more out of an f4r with the suction pump due to this design (pic nicked from icemans thread)

Djw John said:
Mmm, interesting reading! Maybe it's time to try it out.
Do you have to keep pumping it or does it start siphoning it out itself?

15 pumps and let it do the magic, take filter off whilst its sucking like a gooden

DomP182 · Oct 14, 2019

Brigsy said:
A lot of the sumps have a raised part internally where the sump plug thread is, you will never get all the oil out removing the sump plug

Prob get more out of an f4r with the suction pump due to this design (pic nicked from icemans thread)View attachment 1437452

15 pumps and let it do the magic, take filter off whilst its sucking like a gooden

Actually now I've seen that I can see where you're coming from

Djw John · Oct 14, 2019

Brigsy said:
A lot of the sumps have a raised part internally where the sump plug thread is, you will never get all the oil out removing the sump plug

Prob get more out of an f4r with the suction pump due to this design (pic nicked from icemans thread)View attachment 1437452

15 pumps and let it do the magic, take filter off whilst its sucking like a gooden

I don't think I've ever given something 15 pumps.

Martin. · Oct 15, 2019

2 pumps and done

MLB · Oct 17, 2019

Brigsy said:
This is the one i use, good for sucking brake fluid out too, can reverse bleed

Sealey TP69 6.5ltr Manual Vacuum Oil and Fluid Extractor: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

Free delivery and returns on all eligible orders. Shop Sealey TP69 6.5ltr Manual Vacuum Oil and Fluid Extractor.

www.amazon.co.uk

My dad's got the same one and loves it, I've used it a couple of times for some hard to reach spills in boats and it's a great piece of kit!

charltjr · Oct 17, 2019

I'd never even thought of that, I don't currently have a flat area where I can jack the car up safely and I need to do an oil change on the van of misery.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-60W-...ansfer-Pump-Siphon-Car-Motorbike/132439466537

Even if it's complete crap, that looks like it's worth a punt at six quid, I've got a £5 eBay voucher to use

Djw John · Oct 17, 2019

You really don't need to do an oil change to that 😂

charltjr · Oct 17, 2019

OK, "need" is pushing it. I could just reset the service indicator and forget about it, but I've ordered the oil and filter now. For £45 including the pump, may as well!

Mind you, that is more than 5% of the cost of the car in the first place.

bashracing · Oct 17, 2019

Life hack for the lazy f**k millennials :
1 - remove oil filter
2 - start engine
3 - engine will pump oil out for you
4 - ~~engine will seize~~
4 - replace filter & refill with oil
5 - now just tidy up and you're done

MLB · Oct 17, 2019

bashracing said:
Life hack for the lazy f**k millennials :
1 - remove oil filter
2 - start engine
3 - engine will pump oil out for you
4 - ~~engine will seize~~
4 - replace filter & refill with oil
5 - ~~now just tidy up and you're done~~

Fixed that for you, since when do lazy millennials care about tidying up when they can just leave the mess and stare at their phones??

BoatNonce · Oct 17, 2019

I pump the oil out 3/4 times and the other time drop the sump plug. It's miles easier pumping out (and I have to do it bloody often on the current car so it makes sense), but you don't necessarily get all the debris out of the sump doing so. So for that 1 time in 4 I drop the plug and give it a decent amount of time to drain everything out.

Cupman29 · Oct 18, 2019

For me, one of the important parts when changing the oil is to use a magnetic sump plug and inspect for debris due to engine wear.

Can’t do this when pumping the oil out.

Old ways are the best ways on this one for me.

R3k1355 · Oct 21, 2019

charltjr said:
I'd never even thought of that, I don't currently have a flat area where I can jack the car up safely and I need to do an oil change on the van of misery.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-60W-...ansfer-Pump-Siphon-Car-Motorbike/132439466537

Even if it's complete crap, that looks like it's worth a punt at six quid, I've got a £5 eBay voucher to use

I use that one it's fine.

Cupman29 said:
For me, one of the important parts when changing the oil is to use a magnetic sump plug and inspect for debris due to engine wear.

Can’t do this when pumping the oil out.

Old ways are the best ways on this one for me.

If you find anything of note when doing that the engine has already lunched itself

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