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Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers



George@RTR_Parts

ClioSport Trader
  need BRAKES? PM me
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

IIRC some members have used the Brembo HC discs from a Scenic 300x24mm.

I can do these for £97 a pair posted. Will be a bit extra for postage to yourself if you are in the Netherlands.

cheers
George
 
  Clio 172 ph2
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Seems like a very cheap way to get big stopping power. Are there any fast road/track pads for this caliper though?



cheers, Matt
 
  172cup turbo & rx8
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Any idea of the model number of the calipers?
 
  CursedTitanium 182FF
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

6285-2 is the part number of the drivers side.
 
  172/1.2/E30
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Seems like a very cheap way to get big stopping power. Are there any fast road/track pads for this caliper though?



cheers, Matt

Afaik not. But isn't there a company which puts performance compounds on standard pad backplate?
 
  MX5 NC 2.0 Sport
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

I plan on picking them up tomorrow, so i can give you guys the part numbers of the calipers :)
These are from a 3.0 v6 espace initiale from 2004
 
  182
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Intresting:D So no need for brackets just a straight bolt on part? ifso i'm off to find some..
 
  MX5 NC 2.0 Sport
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

They both have the same mounting points, already measured them today at the scap yard. A direct plug and play upgrade, only thing needed are the 300mm 24mm discs from a scenic.
But this is already been discovered by the user in the link in the 1st post.
Allthough he didn't want to share the exact part numbers ;)
 

Tunst

ClioSport Club Member
  Focus ST225, Focus E
Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Hmm i may go scower a few scrap yards for these...
 

sbridgey

ClioSport Club Member
  disco 4, 182, Meglio
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

If you can't get decent pads what's the point? surely standard calipers with decent pads will be better?
 
  MX5 NC 2.0 Sport
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Well for the ones who don't visit the track on a regular basis this is a real interesting (and extremely cheap) upgrade.
Surely some brembo discs/pads with these larger calipers is allot better than the standard stuff ...... :eek:
Found some "possible" decent (not track worthy) pads for these (going to check the sizes tomorrow with the ones that come out of the calipers).

Brembo : P 68 026
Ferrodo : FDB1124

These should be Espace 3.0 V6 mkIII compatible according to the sites.
 
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  172cup turbo & rx8
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Pad Dimensions: 155.4 x 71 x 18 (156.4 x 68.5 x 18) for a espace v6 mk3 vs 129 X 55.6 X 18 for a 172
 
  MX5 NC 2.0 Sport
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Looks awesome already, so there are more options than we initially thought ! ;)
 
  2014 Clio 200t edc
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Any pictures? Do these 'look' better/bigger?
 

George@RTR_Parts

ClioSport Trader
  need BRAKES? PM me
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Confirm pad dimensions when you get chance mate and i'll see what i can get hold of for these. I will be able to get the Brembo oem pads
 
  MX5 NC 2.0 Sport
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Well i got the calipers and made some pictures with the part numbers for you guys.

There a bit bigger for sure, the red is the original ph1 172 (laguna/scenic caliper) the ones on the ph2 172 are a bit different but should have the same mounting holes.

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And most important, the proof that it fits without any modification :cool:

20121006151957.jpg


Part numbers of the left and right calipers :

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20121006152145.jpg
 
  106GTI / NovaC20LET
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Nice! Very interested in these. Any idea what discs are needed yet? Will it be a straight forward swap on the discs as well as calipers?
 
  2014 Clio 200t edc
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Looks an ace upgrade. Let us know how they perform. Discs look good too but aren't they 5 stud discs?
would these need a new master cylinder or are they a bolt on work straight away part?
 
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  MX5 NC 2.0 Sport
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Well according to the specs it should fit.
Clearly says : "300mm x 24mm 4 stud vented discs"


Regarding the master cylinder, everyone i asked told me it was no problem.
The guy from the 1st post link also said that it would work, so im going to assume its as easy as that ;)
 
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  182
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Smokey do the standard 172/182 brake hoses fit? what size wheels are/will you be running?

Willwood 4 pots etc run the standard master cylinder so should be fine tbh
 
  MX5 NC 2.0 Sport
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Smokey do the standard 172/182 brake hoses fit? what size wheels are/will you be running?

Willwood 4 pots etc run the standard master cylinder so should be fine tbh

Just checked the hose and can confirm it fits straight on.
Seems like these cars a ment to be paired with these calipers :D
Im running 16" F1's with spacers so enough space to fit these.
 
  106GTI / NovaC20LET
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Just checked the hose and can confirm it fits straight on.
Seems like these cars a ment to be paired with these calipers :D
Im running 16" F1's with spacers so enough space to fit these.

Reckon they will fit under 15s? The 280mm discs and standard calipers already quite a tight fit.
 
  106GTI / NovaC20LET
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Might have to stick the turinis back on and give these a go. I find the standard breaks really suffer from fade after about 20/30mins of hard track use. Keep this thread updated on how you get on and if the improvement is worth while.

Good find btw :clap: might of just saved me a fortune. Was gonna update the breaks over the winter, this could be the answer.
 
  182
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Just need pads to be confirmed and whether G172 can get them.

Have now found 2 calipers so shall be having these also.
 
  MX5 NC 2.0 Sport
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Just need pads to be confirmed and whether G172 can get them.

Have now found 2 calipers so shall be having these also.

Nice ! there are a few on ebay aswell.
Regarding the dics, read on the forum that your not realy a fan of the mtec ones ?
 
  182
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Nice ! there are a few on ebay aswell.
Regarding the dics, read on the forum that your not realy a fan of the mtec ones ?

No not a fan mate as they are pretty poor discs tbh and crack between the drilled holes had them on my old valver.

Personally i will be going for the brembo discs off G172..
 
  MX5 NC 2.0 Sport
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

No not a fan mate as they are pretty poor discs tbh and crack between the drilled holes had them on my old valver.

Personally i will be going for the brembo discs off G172..

Ok, thats makes it official -> Mtec ones off my list.
There are also Zimmerman (German Quality) ones i only have to check what they cost and what the part number is.
 
  182cup & 172 racecar
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Interesting upgrade, shame about not fitting 15's though.
 

Christopher

ClioSport Club Member
  Z4M
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Good upgrade for very little money!

Looking forward to see how they perform.
 
  106GTI / NovaC20LET
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

Interesting upgrade, shame about not fitting 15's though.

isn't it just. Love the way the car handles on lightweight 15s. Gonna give it a try still, sure someone will buy the setup off me if I can't live with the 16s.
 
  MX5 NC 2.0 Sport
Re: Upgrade to Espace (2 Pot) Calipers -> Wich discs ?

I just ordered the Brembo HC discs. Will share my findings with you guys offcourse, but it can take up to a week till i have time to mount them though :(.
Its definatelly a cheap upgrade i only paid 70 pounds for the 2 calipers :evil:
 
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