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Typhoons 197

Discussion in 'Clio Projects' started by Typhoon, Apr 9, 2015.

  1. Typhoon

    Typhoon Beefcake ClioSport Moderator

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    So the story starts with me debating getting a 1*2 or a 197 - ended up choosing a 197.

    After seeing a few on the 'bay, Autotrader etc and them turning out to be dogs, around this time last year I finally found one I liked the look and sound of and drove from South London to Llanelli, Wales (About 15 miles away from Swansea).

    Didn't get there until about 9PM but checked the car over and all seemed well, although the seller stating the belts were done and having 'lost' the receipt, I of course knocked the belt money off to which he agreed. Rung my bank to make the payment and was told it could take 24 hours to clear! I wasn't going to drive back here so ended up getting a hotel with my mate and enjoying the Swansea nightlife. Had a good laugh!

    Roll on the following day, banging headache I went and picked the new car up: (I'd had the car for a week or two when these pictures were taken, hence the plate and tints which I got done at Phantom Tinting in Kent).

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    It's a 2007 (no gearbox issues) Nimbus 197, black wrapped roof and wing mirrors.

    My first mistake since owning it was not choosing a Renault specialist to do the belts, the reason being I worked next door to a highly reputable garage and did it for convenience.

    I booked it in with the guys there and all went well.

    A month of so later and it was due it's service so I took it to Renault in Slough for it's service and 50 point check.

    Shortly after I received a phone call and was told; 'Service is done, come and collect the car'.

    Turned up, saw one of the valet guys moving it round to a dry area and went in to get my keys.

    When I got in the office, the service manager sat me down and told me while it was in a service with them the belt slipped a tooth and chewed the engine up. (I couldn't prove they'd deliberately done this so just had to bite the bullet although after kicking off a stink they did refund me the £250 service cost, lent me the new MK4 for two weeks and told me my next service is free!)

    Straight away got on the phone to Mike Woodford who's a good friend of mine outside of the Clio scene and he popped down to have a look and confirmed the belt had slipped and there was no compression in the engine. Mike confirmed it was suspect cambelt failure & upon disassembly discovered dephaser pulley bolt was only finger tight causing dephaser to slip on inlet cam.

    He'd booked a couple of weeks off from work and rebuilt the top half of my engine.

    This included;
    Supertec Valves
    Genuine Renault Cambelt Kit
    Genuine Renault Aux belt kit
    Genuine Renault Headgasket set
    Genuine Renault Headbolts x10
    5/40 Elf Renault Oil
    Genuine Renault Oil Filter
    Type D Renault Coolant

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    Has been running sweet ever since, this guy knows his RenaultSports inside out.

    Next on my job list was brakes so got straight on to @George@RTR_Parts and ordered new rear discs, new rear pads, new rear hub nuts, oil, front discs, front pads and some new Brembo pins.

    Spot on service and was with me in next to no time at all:

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    As I'm a complete amateur, I spoke to @Cub. who told me to (as I lost the key) shatter the locking wheel nuts off and bring the car to CubMansion.

    Little did I know that the locking wheel nuts on the 197 have spinning collars which stop the smaller socket being hammered and twisted over the top.

    Managed to use a punch to break the collar and then go at it with a socket.

    Bought the car to CubMansion where we only managed to get the rears done. Reason being it was either raining or blowing us 6 feet down the road. Also, the rear calipers were seized beyond belief so that took quite a lot of winding and thug power to get them back in!

    New disc (and hub nut) on;

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    We then got to the pads and I believe @Cub. has given me the award for the worst pads he has ever seen.

    This is the new compared to the old;

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    Haven't got round to doing the front yet as part of my 50 point check revealed one of my suspension springs is split, and the other side is corroded so going to get them on order and then tackle the springs and the front brakes at the same time. Any recommendations? It's going to be 90% road use so don't want anything that's going to give it to much of a rough ride.

    Near future plans:
    • New oil sump
    • Lower ball joint hub carrier needs replacing
    • Steering arms need replacing
    • Springs need replacing
    • Front brakes/Caliper refurb
    • Wheels dipped (previous owner had been curb happy)
    • Spoiler. Prefer the cup spoiler but it's a bit marmite.
    • I want to map it with RSTuner but apparently there is very little point with the 197's?
    All I've done really so far is stuck a KTR panel filter in, and putting in some NGK sparks when I get round to it.
    There's also a stone chip on my bonnet now which I've been quoted £300 to repair!

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    This'll be my project thread so anything new and I'll update it in here! Off to see @MicKPM this weekend, he's going to give the car a once over and tell me what needs to be done etc.

    Cheers,

    Lee
     
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  2. JoeMarano

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    Halfords rattle cans will fix that for less than £30...
     
  3. Typhoon

    Typhoon Beefcake ClioSport Moderator

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    It would look like a cheap job tho, no? The body shops I've taken it too have all said it's a full bonnet respray plus a bit of the bumper to blend it in. The chip is the size of a 10pence coin I'd say.
     
  4. JoeMarano

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    Im not saying you could do it yourself better than a bodyshop but you should be able to get a decent result for a lot less money. Sure respraying the bonnet is the ideal scenario but for the cost is it worth it?

    Im in a similar situation with some fuckwit keying the whole of the side of my car and im going to try and fix it myself. I plan to purposefully key my old non cup spoiler to try different methods of repair. You could do something similar?
     
  5. Typhoon

    Typhoon Beefcake ClioSport Moderator

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    I do have a couple of 172 spoilers in the garage in Nimbus silver actually, you could be on to something here! :smiley:

    How deep is the scratches on yours?
     
  6. JoeMarano

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    Down to the primer. I painted this with rattle cans...

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  7. Typhoon

    Typhoon Beefcake ClioSport Moderator

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    Good effort mate - how many attempts? I struggle to see how to get a smooth finish with rattles, especially on a bonnet.
     
  8. JoeMarano

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    First attempt bud but I have sprayed other stuff with cans before.
     
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  9. JoeMarano

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    The main aspect of my spraying fortunes has been spraying the lacquer while the paint is still wet (5-10mins later) I used to leave it overnight and the results were always poor.
     
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  10. imprezaworks

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    The bonnet would look w**k with what your thinking.

    Lee car looks good. Shane about the engine but onwards and upwards
     
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  11. Typhoon

    Typhoon Beefcake ClioSport Moderator

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    Cheers mate, yeah that hurdles out the way now. At least I know it's done to the best possible standard as well!
     
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  12. JoeMarano

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    Never underestimate the power of halfords.
     
  13. imprezaworks

    imprezaworks ClioSport Club Member

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    I await to be proved wrong, on a bonnet, on a driveway.
     
  14. Cub.

    Cub. ClioSport Moderator

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    Looked good when it was over here bud. Tidy car :smile:

    Ask Mick to look at the handbrake issue. Will need adjusting and cables replacing I suspect mate.
     
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  15. Typhoon

    Typhoon Beefcake ClioSport Moderator

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    Completely forgot about that tbh! Yeah, will definitely mention it to him!
     
  16. Cub.

    Cub. ClioSport Moderator

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    Oh, I also have an RS tuner if you do want to map it. As said, not sure on the effect on 197's, but it's there if you want to do it. :smile:
     
  17. Typhoon

    Typhoon Beefcake ClioSport Moderator

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    It's going to be a brewery at this rate mate :wink:
    Cheers! I don't believe it is beneficial! Could be wrong however!
     
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  18. Cub.

    Cub. ClioSport Moderator

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    I'm going to be shitfaced at CSS at this rate :tearsofjoy:
     
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  19. Typhoon

    Typhoon Beefcake ClioSport Moderator

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    Sorry for the delay in any updates, not much has changed at the minute.

    Was driving home from the gym a couple of weeks ago when I heard a constant grinding noise.

    Pulled over and realised the bolt on the carrier had come out the back and in turn the force had made the caliper jolt upwards and grind in to the top of the disc.

    Only had a cable tie on me to sort the issue but when I got home, it had been destroyed and looked a little like this;

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    Then began the chasing of a bolt - firstly after speaking to Renault West London they told me I need to buy the whole hub assembly and couldn't get the bolt alone. I spoke to a breaker and managed to source one only to later on in the day speak to Renault Wolverhampton who told me they are unsure why Renault West London said that and charged me £7 for next day delivery. Finally after nearly a whole day trying to source the bolt, the little sh*t was mine!

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    A few days after I got another delivery that I had been waiting for;

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    H&R springs all round. (30mm front drop and 40mm rear).

    I received these on the Thursday afternoon and had FCS on the Friday and a friend of mine had a quick look but confirmed the whole hub assembly has to come off to change the front springs on the 197. I rung around until I gave @markfishy a call.

    He confirmed it would all have to come apart and told me he would fit me in 8am the following morning.

    Him and his boys did a cracking job on it, which took them a total 7 hours. This also included Mark removing the destroyed lower hub ball joint and sticking a brand new one in there.

    When one of his boys removed the first ring it literally split in half;

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    The rear arch gap made my car look like a Jeep originally;

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    But when fitted (sorry, this is the only pic I have of it at the minute);

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    Looks much nicer, I think anyway!

    Leaving it a bit fine, I met up with @Pacman. , @fairm010 & @Sunglasses_Ron and off to FCS we went.

    I had a little celebration with my car on the way.

    £10gazillion in repairs but it finally made it to the big 7-0!

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  20. fairm010

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    That picture was destined for the Internet
     
  21. Chris91

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    Know the feeling with the 197 repair bills!

    Looks great :smile:
     
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  22. Typhoon

    Typhoon Beefcake ClioSport Moderator

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    Cheers Chris! They have made it a lot more complicated than it should be!
     
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    Sits alot better

    Amazing what a set of springs can do to the ride of a car
     
  24. Typhoon

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    Cheers boss, yeah 10x better. I was worried about how much it'll affect the ride at first but if anything it's much nicer. Speed bumps are slightly harsher but as a whole the handling is much more supportive.
     
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    I thought the same when i was getting the cooksports fitted to mine, if anything i enjoy the car more now, really transformed it
     
  26. Cub.

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    Sits a thousand times better on the springs. Good work!
     
  27. Typhoon

    Typhoon Beefcake ClioSport Moderator

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    Has it improved the handling? There is a happy medium I find.
    Cheers sister!
     
  28. Danny_172

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    Good progress.

    But please do not paint that bonnet on a drive way with rattle cans for fvck sake.
     
  29. Typhoon

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    Too late mate.
     
  30. Typhoon

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    Only a little update really.

    Always thought the silver in the centre console and dash strips looked out of place (and they were scratched to buggery) so wanted to change them to black.

    The original plan was to carbon fibre wrap them but apart from being a pain in the ass, I also thought it looked quite tacky.

    I opted for a satin black as opposed to gloss because I'm not really a fan of the shine.

    This was the first time I'd attempted painting etc and I think it's turned out alright. Have learnt a few things to do differently next time however.

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    Primered (after I'd sanded it all down):
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    Comparison:
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    Finished:
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  31. Typhoon

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    Now, if you know me, you'll know I'm not one to brag, however I have just done the best mod of 2015.
    After around 12 days of driving round using my fogs as my only source of light (flamesuit: enabled) I managed to get round to dropping the bumper off and replacing the headlights and sidelights.
    Looks pretty awesome and I certainly stand out from the crowd now.

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    As an extra bonus for reading this update in my project thread, I've included a free, slighty pissed, photo of both mine and @fairm010 's car. This can be used as a desktop background, a moonpig card for a much loved family member this year or several other things.

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    wona swop carz?
     
  33. Typhoon

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    You've told me about your gearbox...
     
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    Alistair14 South East - Herts/London ClioSport Area Rep

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    m9 its f9 yh
     
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  35. Typhoon

    Typhoon Beefcake ClioSport Moderator

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    It's alright @Alistair14 - mine is made out of cheese anyway.
     
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    Car looks awesome mate! Nice touches
     
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  37. fairm010

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    Some would say its a copycat addition. Personally I think its p on par with silvervisions etc.
     
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    That is definitely what a wheel stealer would say!
     
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  39. Typhoon

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    FLOL!
     
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    Looking good .. how the the rattle can spray go?
     

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