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Sunroof Leak, Please HELP!!!

Discussion in 'Exterior & Bodywork' started by CraftyChrisc13, Jun 10, 2011.

  1. CraftyChrisc13

    CraftyChrisc13

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    As the title says, my sunroof is leaking into the car and onto my seat :worried: it started off on the passengers side, got that fixed and now its on the drivers side. It's had a new seal put in and has been fitted back in correctly. What should I do?
    Any help at all will be greatly appreciated
    Thanks in advance
    Chris
     
  2. Jon.G

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    How long ago was the seal replaced? If its leaking again, take it back and get the seal replaced. Other than that, do it yourself.
     
  3. CraftyChrisc13

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    I'd say about 2 weeks ago, wasn't long at all, just seems strange how one side has been fixed and it's gone to the other, me and my grandad replaced it. we've also had the full sunroof out and put that back in properly.
     
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    When you put it back in did you silicon around roof and frame,you have to use sealant as the rubber doesnt do it :wink:
     
  5. CraftyChrisc13

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    Yes, we put silicon around the roof and the new seal we bought is some other material that's stronger than rubber, would you suggest putting sealant where the seal lies then putting the seal on top?
     
  6. Revels

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    Silicone ftw. Use a whole tube and seal it up.
     
  7. CraftyChrisc13

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    I still want to be able to open the roof though ideally, but if it comes to it I guess it'll have to be fully sealed =/
     
  8. CraftyChrisc13

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    And i've just discovered that it is also leaking on the passengers side :worried:
    What's the best thing to do then?
     
  9. Jon.G

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    Take it out, clean everything with white spirit, silicone the f**k out of the old frame. LOADS on the corners where the water leaks. Put it in place, bolt it up. Wipe the excess off then seal around the edge of the frame. Also check that the funnels are not cracked and tubes are correctly attached on the frame!
     
  10. CraftyChrisc13

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    Thank you so much for the help and advice guys :smile: my grandad is going to have a look at it on sunday while I'm at work, I'll tell him what you've all said and it'll hopefully be sorted once and for all :smile:
     
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    Yes mate put it on all mating surfaces it will stop the leaks
     
  12. Vickyx

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    Mine leaks but so far I've not had it drop onto the seat, just two wet patches around the sun visors. I've long since accepted it as character lol.
     
  13. CraftyChrisc13

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    Thanks for the help :smile: it should hopefully be sorted tomorrow, and mine leaks badly, I'd just finished work, went to the car and the seat and roof lining was soaked through, had to drive home getting dripped on and got a wet bum! :worried:
     
  14. CraftyChrisc13

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    I've had it looked at and done what you guys have said to do, the rain has come and so far it's not leaked :smile:
    Thank you very much for your help everyone, much appreciated :smile:
     
  15. Jon.G

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    Awesome! Good to know.
     
  16. MatthewR

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    mines leaking now! its a never ending trail of shoddy sealing from renault! only trouble for me is i have no garage to take it into so i can pop the sunroof out etc cos its still raining. it got to a point today where it was dripping in from the light!..

    iv taken the light out and put tape around edge of the sunroof and then vaselined around that as a quick fix untill i get it somewhere dry!
     
  17. incy-spider

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    Silicone is a BIG no!!! Can't stress that enough, it makes a shitty mess and never works or if it does for a couple weeks until it dries and then peels off from the roof, I hate doing these after some goon has siliconed it up!!

    It's so easy to just do it properly, easy test is to 'tap' around the sunroof cassette where it sits on the metal work of the roof, you will see the roof of the car flex up and down under the plastic cassette, this is where it will be leaking. Renault used a stupid water soaking foam material to seal the cassette to the roof which obviously was dumb!!

    Removing the complete roof is straight forward,

    1. Remove the finisher around the sunroof headlining.
    2. Remove grab handles and sun visors.
    3. Remove courtesy light and courtesy light panel.
    4. Pull back both front door seals around the A pillar and tops of doors.
    5. Remove both A pillar covers.

    You can now pull down the front of the headlining ( best to wind down both seat and put them right back )

    You can now see a ring of 10mm bolts that sandwich the roof between the lower metal frame and the plastic cassette - remove these please!!

    Once they are all loose you can push the sunroof cassette right out (easily) dependent on if some looser used silicone before!? Now use a powerfull jet wash on a concentrated jet and blast the old foamy seal away! Prob worth taking the glass out if it's a manual roof..

    You need a mastic that will never set or go hard, it needs to stay flexible for the rest of it's life, Renault have such a mastic that is used on door cards and comes in a roll (fairly cheap) you need to stretch this all the way around the cassette where the old seal used to be, fairly central. The bead needs to be about 5mm wide and the same in height, make sure it's stuck to the cassette all the way around.

    Clean the roof as best as you can I use a mild compound to get the heavy dirt of.

    Then smack the cassette back in the hole it came out of, easier with two people the line it up. Give it a little push all the way around to squeeze the seal a bit. Next push up the lower metal frame and loosely screw in the 10mm bolts (give them a grease up first) then in a cross cross pattern nip all the bolts up (not too tight). You will see the seal start to squeeze out slightly and if you havn't uses to much mastic it won't squeeze out to far.

    There you go, put back all the rest of the gubbins in reverse order. It wouldnt hurt to clean the rubber seal around the glass too, and lastly don't forget to push the drain pipes back
    on to the cassette!! (forgot to
    Mention those earlier they just pull off)

    Now you
     
  18. CraftyChrisc13

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    Mine has never been that bad, luckily my drive slopes so i parked it with the front facing up so it didn't leak haha
     
  19. CraftyChrisc13

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    Thanks for that incy-spider :smile: if it leaks again i'll get it done using your method :smile:
     
  20. incy-spider

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    It's the Renault way - tried and tested about 50 times so far!!
     
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    Bathroom silicone is fine as it's flexible.
     
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    ditto,
    make sure the drain tubes are clear and intact ,you might end up taking the wing liners out for access to the other end of the tube to make sure.

    mick
     
  23. incy-spider

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    Silicone is not fine, when silicone dries it dries to a shape, it may be flexible but it will not last, cars flex alot especially roofs. When the silicone has finally dried and the car twists and moves the silicone will peel away from the roof and just be a flexible non tacky substace that will cause more harm than good, mastic will never dry and will always change form, also it will always stay tacky, either bodge it or fix it - two choices!
     
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    where can i get this mastic from?
     
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    Or probably B&Q/Wickes
     
  27. incy-spider

    incy-spider ClioSport Club Member

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    I'll Put the Renault part number up tomorrow.
     
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    cheers incy, does it have to be renault or will this building mastic do?
     
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    I recommend renault stuff as I said it's tried and tested, I comes in a large roll, sorta like how blue tac comes, paper on one side that you peel off, it stops it sticking to itself!
     
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    7701423330 £7.50 + vat
     
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    I've taken mine out and fixed the leak, but now it creaks and makes god awful noises all the time... is there a fix for this?
     
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    Is it a stock item anywere?
     
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    We keep it in stock, Prideaux of Barnstaple, Devon! Bit out the wat for you tho!?
     
  34. CraftyChrisc13

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    How can I get hold of this? Do i need to go to a Renault dealer or can I order it online?
     
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    Mine's leaking on the passenger side, quite badly. I'm gonna follow incy's guide, so hopefully that'll sort it.
    My hazards come on randomly when it rains too, which I thought would be down to water in the alarm. Only thing is, I'm not sure my car's even got one... Could the water from the roof be getting to the fusebox?!
     
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    should we change the rubber seal as well?

    Is it difficult to do that one? I need to sort out mine as well.

    Mine is electric, is there something i need to pay more attention too?
     
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    Can anyone recommend anything to seal it temporarily until I have the time to get it fixed properly in a week or two? Or is it just a simple gaffa tape job?
     
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    Suppose you could use some water-proof tape around the outside edges of the sunroof(think thats where the water leaks in mainly because the seal has broken down), should hold it for a bit (think someone used that as a permanent somewhere else iv seen). I did mine over the last summer, got bored of having a wet seat every time it rained lol . Was pretty simple, just cleaned up the poor stuff that Renault left on there, added some silicone around it and its been fine every since.
     
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    Going to have to put something over it soon, its pissing it down again here and i'm sat in work. Wet car when i get back to it at 6pm then...
     
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