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Nissan Platina/Renault Symbol or Clio Sedan

Discussion in 'Clio Projects' started by Mexicano, May 3, 2012.

  1. Mexicano

    Mexicano

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    Hello,
    New to the forum and live in Mexico, have a Nissan Platina, sold in other Countries by Renault as Symbol, Thalia, Clio Sedan, It has a K4M engine, 1.6, 16V, I'm in the process to modify my engine and need your expert advice, I want to keep my K4M engine and install a turbo set up, I have been working on suspension and brakes, got most of my parts from KTec Racing in UK.

    My car has actually the following mods:

    17" wheels and tires
    Momo Steering Wheel, shift knob, park brake handdle and Momo Leather Boots
    Sony & JBL audio
    Webasto Sun Roof (soft,electric)
    Brembo drilled front brakes with ferodo pads
    Rear Clio Sport Disc Brakes with ferodo pads
    Ktec Stainless Steel Brake hoses (in the works to install)
    Ktec Engine mounts
    Powerflex Poly Suspension Bushes
    KTR Bolt In Alloy Suspension Top Mounts
    KTR Aluminium Rear Strut Brace
    KTR Carbon Front Strut Brace
    Whiteline Rear Anti Roll Bar Kit
    Billstein B6 Struts and Shock Absorbers
    Eibach coils
    Eibach Camber Correcting Bolts
    KTR 1° Rear Camber Shims
    Full Custom Exhaust sistem, stainless steel with MagnaFlow tail pipe, no cathalitic converter
    Mapped ECU
    Full Flow CAI

    I found a shop in the US willing to port and polish my cylinder head, will send it soon

    Ktec is offering some options for CATCAMS as follows, need help to select one of the cam options:

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  2. Mexicano

    Mexicano

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    These are some pics from my car:

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  3. Mexicano

    Mexicano

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  4. Mexicano

    Mexicano

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    Next modifications are:
    Front Recaro seats in Dark Gray Leather
    OEM Rear seatsand door panels in Leather
    KTR 325 m.m. Front Discs with four pots calipers

    Need your help to find IAPEL Forged pistons and some good quality H Beam Forged Rods, any ideas?

    Thanks!
     
  5. maupineda

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    Hi mate, if you want to turbo I wouldn't bother with cams. there is someone from Brazil here with a turbo K4M, he may give further counseling.
     
  6. morgam23

    morgam23 ClioSport Club Member

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    wow.....
     
  7. Mexicano

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    Hello Mau...good to see another Mexican here:up:...not really sure if I want to go "the turbo route" or just ported and polished cylinder head +forget pistons+ forged rods+ cams + intake and Standalone ECU, at this point I really don't know...main issue is to find someone to do the job as I don't have time, also don't have a clue on turbos setup:banghead: , I have talk to a couple of guys here in Mexico, they deal with V.W.'s and SEAT turbos and they are very good but they have never had any Renault engine to work on....I don't want to be their LabRat!
    Regards
     
  8. Shifty.

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    Hi mate welcome to the club, I wonder if a phase 2 sport front and rear bumpers and grill might fit that it'd look nice, not keen on your wheels tbh but each to his own, your car certainly is very different and you have some good mods so far and plenty to come by the looks of it, I'm sure CS will offer plenty of technical help, not me however as I'm not very technical!! Enjoy your time on the forum, cheers, Simon
     
  9. Mexicano

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    Thanks Simon.

    Certanly, I don't like my wheels...I'm right behind a set of Enkei RPF1 Wheels, Silver Finish....

    I will keep the exterior as It is, the front and rear bumpers from Renault would fit but don't want to make it look as a Clio, It is a Platina/Symbol.

    I will install a set of leather Recaros, not "racing seats", something like the "Specialist" or "expert" models.

    As for the engine, I'm still trying to decide isf I go turbo or N/A....It all depends on if I can get the right guy to set-up a turbo engine or not.

    Front brakes are on It's way, KTEC doesn't stock those, they are 3-4 weeks lead time + shipping to Mexico....in the mean time I will install my SS braided brake hoses, the front ones are easy...but the rear ones not...my stock lines are steel tube crimped to a hose and another piece of steel tubing, I am trying to sort that some how..have some ideas.

    Regards
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2012
  10. jamesd1263

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    Looks clean
     
  11. Mexicano

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    O.K., I have a couple of Thech Questions:

    If I am going to install the FlowTek Manifold like this:

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    Is it a good idea to get a Bigger throttle body like this (and of course "bigger" injectors)?

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    Someone told me the BIG Throttle Body if from an Old Laguna, Do someone knows the model?, where to get it?

    Thanks
     
  12. Mexicano

    Mexicano

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    I just order this nice item:
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    Will order next week my ENKEI RPF-1 Rims.... Thanks to Valentin_N for hook me up to the store!

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    Don't know yet if going 17" and use same size of tires (205-17-40) or could be best to order 16" and buy tires 205-15-55, what Do you think??
     
  13. jack_davey

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    Strange! It has a ph1 dash!
     
  14. Mexicano

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    I ordered today the dbilass intake & air filter, also the ENKEI Wheels...It's going to take some 3 weeks before they arrive to me...will post some pics when I get them.

    Can someone help on the Throttle Body Issue?

    Thanks!
     
  15. The Fatty

    The Fatty South West - Central ClioSport Area Rep

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    looking at this car makes me more confused than I normally am :confused:

    Nissan badge, clio lights, god knows what from something else..! Its like they put a bunch of cars in a blender and this came out...
     
  16. Mexicano

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    LOL, Yes...This car(same as Renault Symbol or Renault Thalia) was sold in my country by Nissan, under the name of Platina, It has different headlights, I installed the Clio headlights because I like them much more.
     
  17. Austin-182

    Austin-182 ClioSport Club Member

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    I feel confused, lol never seen anything like this before.

    Welcome to CS
     
  18. Mexicano

    Mexicano

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    Finally, the dbilas dynamics intake arrived...

    THE PARTS:
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    THE OEM INTAKE REMOVED:
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    THE NEW INTAKE INSTALLED:
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    WORKING ON THE HARNESSES:
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  19. Mexicano

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    ALMOST READY!!:
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    FINISHED:
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  20. Mexicano

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    Today I was looking close to my intake installation and discovered a "pin hole", looks like it is to "breath" the case???.....It use to be inside the OEM airbox:
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    I decided to remove the cover and fix it:
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    Drill it and tap it:
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    Added an small bolt:
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  21. Mexicano

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    Some sealant to the cover:
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    And here It is again:
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  22. Mexicano

    Mexicano

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    Also got my Alloy Tank from KTec Racing:
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    Looks nice!
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  23. Mexicano

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    Today I had the chance to drive my car with the new dbilas dynamics intake....all I can say is WOW!!!...It worths every single GBP I paid for it...the sound of the engine is just beautiful....
     
  24. Scrooge

    Scrooge ClioSport Club Member

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    There's alot of effort gone into that!
     
  25. CR1S

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    So what chassis is it then? I'm as confused as everyone else!
     
  26. dmn1989

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    This car is sold on the continent as a clio saloon.

    In Mexico, apparently, Nissan have rebranded it and sold it on.

    Renault own around 70% of Nissan.
     
  27. glowworm105

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    Theres someone on here that sells ready made turbo kits for the k4m , no mods to the pistons etc are required iirc
     
  28. Addicted

    Addicted ClioSport Club Member

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    Hah that's awesome, so glad you are changing the wheels I do not like the ones on it at the moment :smile:
     
  29. Mexicano

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    Tell me about it!, a lot of effort and LOTS of $$$$$...every single part has been imported from UK, USA and Germany!

    Chasis is the same used on Renault Clio 4-door, 1.6Lts., in other Countries sold as Renault Symbol or Thalia, in Mexico was sold by Nissan as "Platina"

    Too late, No turbo anymore...12:1 Forged Pistons, Forged Rods, CatCams, Bigger Throttle Body and Bigger Injectors are on It's way, PRO_FLOW in the US are going to port and polish the cylinder head and Piasini is going to re-map my ECU

    Those wheels didn't like to me either....but they were the only ones available at the time I went to the Car Store...no too many choices here, I'm glad I got my Enkei Rims and Falken Tires
     
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  30. glowworm105

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    What kind of power are you hoping for from all of this week , looks like your spending alot of money on it
     
  31. Mexicano

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    Not really sure, This car has only 70H.P's to the front wheels, factory says it has 110H.P.'s but it may be at sea level-engine shaft :tongueclosed: if I get 130-140H.P's to the front wheels I will be very happy...not hard to get, with the complete exhaust system and the re-map I already have, got 90 H.P.'s, with the new intake, injectors, throttle body, the new higher compression, the cams and the Port job I guess is feasible to get 140 H.P.'s
     
  32. Mexicano

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    Mi rims and tires finally arrived....the rims are at the machine shop to fabricate some "spacers" for the center hole, the rims are 73m.m. bora and my car has 60 m.m. axles..I will post some pics once they are done
     
  33. -J-

    -J- South East - London/Herts ClioSport Area Rep

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    I quite like this car.

    Interested to see it with the new wheels.
     
  34. Lelouch

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    :smile: very interesting project and I have to say really nice car!!
     
  35. Mexicano

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    Soon, very soon...the rims and tires are now in Mexico, just waiting for the center caps...I'm very frustrated :cry:when I saw those were not included and the sales guy didn't said nothing until I asked....another $120.00 Usd. to get those.

    Thanks!
     
  36. shumoboi

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    You have certainly added tasteful engine modifications mate its totally different to what we are all used to, even for someone like myself who works for Nissan i have never seen anything like this in my life lol. Good project tho buddy, keep up the good work.
     
  37. brisa4984

    brisa4984 ClioSport Club Member

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    Could you have not put a 172/182 engine in?
     
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  38. Mexicano

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    Thanks!
     
  39. Mexicano

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    Not so easy to do, in my country only few Clio Sport 2.0Lts. are available, most of those You find for sale are in very bad shape, ready for a complete engine rebuild, those in very nice condition are rare and very expensive(a shame to buy one just as a "donor"), another fact is: I spent some time looking for a "decent priced" engine at ebay UK and after doing long research It would cost me an arm and a leg to import an engine, subframe, gearbox, etc., once imported, anyways have to spend LOTS on tuning parts, working on my OEM engine will never be as fast as with a 2.0 engine, but It will be faster than any other Clio 1.6 or Nissan 1.6 in my Country...and I'm having lots of fun!
     
  40. Mexicano

    Mexicano

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    Got this Stiff Shift 3.0 & Quick Shift Kit from DP in Hungry....Thanks Yanoo!!!..excelent service!
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