Clio 1.2 16v question...

[Mitchy]

Right had to post in here because main section is not yet open.

A cousin of mine has just passed his test and has around £3500 for a car. He's decided on a clio 1.2 16v (current shape version) for insurance purposes.

So that will probably get him a 51/02/52 plate 1.2! Im not sure of all the different models but he says it has alloys/aircon but was wondering about the PAS??

Does it really come with PAS? I thought if it come with alloys and aircon as standard it would at least come with power steering?
Is the PAS heavy when doing something like a 3 point turn! Ive drove a car without power steering before and its not nice! If it genuinely doesn't have power steering i dont think he'll still be interested.

 

[Friction]

it does

all the mk2's do.

 

[Mitchy]

Are you sure because all these clios seem to have PAS?

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW/cars_search.asp?page=1&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&make=RENAULT&model=CLIO&variant=black&keywords=&min_pr=2000&max_pr=4000&mileage=&agerange=2&postcode=yo7+3ye&miles=1500&max_records=50&source=1&photo=1&sort=3&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH

 

[Middo]

it does

all the mk2's do.

agreed, most new cars do nowadays

 

[Mitchy]

Someone actually with a 1.2 for a definitive answer!

Pretty dissapointing really if it does not even have full power steering

 

[Friction]

eh?

LOL, just clicked!

think you're getting a bit confused. 'Power steering' and Power assisted steering, are the same thing. Your steering is still mechanical, but assisted by electrics, or hydraulics to make it lighter.

If it was entirely controlled by electronics, and your car cut out, you'd be into the first tree.

 

[Friction]

so yes, all mk2's have power steering, or power assisted steering, whatever you want to call it.

 

[a716]

I know PAS comes as standard on 2005 models. Have a look on parkers guide (www.parkers.co.uk) in the specifications section.

 

[Friction]

its been standard on clio's for 7 years now.... nothing new.

Its confusion between power steering, and power assisted steering (which are the same thing) thats causing the problem here, lol.

 

[Mitchy]

Sorry but i didn't think they were the same thing.

Im sure ive driven a car before that has had PAS and it was very heavy!

 

[Friction]

they're the same thing.

ph2's use electric power steering, ph1's use hydraulics. How heavy the steering feels, really depends on the car, how the steering is set up, suspension geometries, tyre pressures, etc etc!

 

[bobbobadobob]

my clio's power steerings quite heavy in my opinion, compared to this megane they're given me as a courtesy car. but thats probably not what you wanted to know

 

[Friction]

if you want light steering, buy a punto with a girly button - end of story.

Overly light steering isnt a good thing except maybe for parking when you're feeling lazy. A clio's steering is by no means heavy.

I can steer with a single palm, into a parking space, or even do a 3 point turn - its by no means heavy, and thats with 205/17/40's, but still gives good feedback imho. Anything lighter would just be crap to drive.

It has power steering, it works, end of story. Tell your mate to stop being ghey and just get one!