K-Tec Racing Clio 182 Championship

JB21 · Apr 29, 2016

Anybody ever took part in this series? I may be able to get a sponsor from my company for next years races. Seems a pretty decent championship for an amateur?

Russ Rallye · May 1, 2016

Fine if you like playing bumper cars and have plenty of spare panels!
Russ

harry289 · May 2, 2016

I looked into it moving from mx5 racing to the clio 182 championship. Asking around you need a set of new tyres and a full set of discs and pads per weekend. 2 or 3 gearboxes a season. Lots of spare panels and doors. My race budget wasn't big enough so I stuck with mx5s.

Jamie86 · May 2, 2016

Discs and pads each weekend? What is the allowed setup then?

JB21 · May 2, 2016

Doesn't mention new discs and pads for each weekend in the rules, and tyres should be a minimum of something like 2mm it states. And surly a gearbox rebuild is only required when necessary. Dunno not really looked that far into it TBH.

Robmarriott · May 2, 2016

I considered building a car as it says you can do one for £5k.

Bearing in mind there's £3k of standard, mandatory equipment in each car, before you've considered the stuff you need for the MSA blue book like an extinguisher and a roll cage... I can't see how.

Robmarriott · May 2, 2016

JB21 said:
Doesn't mention new discs and pads for each weekend in the rules, and tyres should be a minimum of something like 2mm it states. And surly a gearbox rebuild is only required when necessary. Dunno not really looked that far into it TBH.

You'll probably NEED new stuff, regardless of what the rules suggest.

You shouldn't need new pads though as pads are 'free' so if you use the right compound, they'll last longer than a weekend

massiveCoRbyn · May 2, 2016

Mark Fish runs in this series so I'm sure he would be able to give you a good idea of costs.

Russ Rallye · May 2, 2016

Lol new set of tyres every weekend. They'll probably do half a season at least. Same with the discs and they're only £50 a set anyway.
Russ

bob the builder · May 2, 2016

come and join in the tricolore trophy, great club atmosphere and some cheap classes to run in.
cost me 4 grand all in to get racing then about 4 to 5 grand a year to race.

Matt e · May 2, 2016

this is on motors tv right now

LeeRS · May 2, 2016

Watching

Matt e · May 2, 2016

Racing later as well (17.05)

JB21 · May 2, 2016

bob the builder said:
come and join in the tricolore trophy, great club atmosphere and some cheap classes to run in.
cost me 4 grand all in to get racing then about 4 to 5 grand a year to race.

Is this UK based?

harry289 · May 2, 2016

yeah you can make your brake pads and tyres last more than one weekend, but you wont be anywhere near the front.

bob the builder · May 2, 2016

yep uk based
http://www.trackattackraceclub.com/pages/season-list.php
check it out.

Russ Rallye · May 2, 2016

harry289 said:
yeah you can make your brake pads and tyres last more than one weekend, but you wont be anywhere near the front.

Hasn't done me any harm in the Tricolore series over the last 2 or 3 seasons!
Russ

harry289 · May 2, 2016

Russ Rallye said:
Hasn't done me any harm in the Tricolore series over the last 2 or 3 seasons!
Russ

Would you say it's the same level of competitiveness though?

Like in mazdas I was 0.7 seconds off pole at brands and that put me 16th on the grid out of 35. A new set of tyres and brakes could have been the little extra I needed to get up there.

Fair play to you if you can do it on used hard wear.
Last season I had one set of tyres and one set of brakes and finished 16th out of over 90 drivers. It can be done.

Neil111 · Jun 30, 2016

JB21 said:
Anybody ever took part in this series? I may be able to get a sponsor from my company for next years races. Seems a pretty decent championship for an amateur?

HI
We raced in this series last year and some of the comments are quite wide of the mark.
Pads last up to 3 meetings using the K-Tek Carbon Lorraine pads which have the best feel of all, most are using these.
Tyres have changed this season from the Dunlops to Yokahama 048's, these last a lot longer and are more durable and are setting quicker lap times on average about 0.5sec. Friends using these this year are getting 2 meetings easily out of them (4 races and two qualifying) and they come in a just under 100 pound a tyre. They have been restricted to 18 for the whole season and are barcoded, most think they wont use anymore than 12-14, depends on track surface as croft and Rockingham eat tyres up. Last season yes some people were using brand new set almost every race especially on the front.
Disks last a whole season easily
Set up you can only change 3 things, tyre pressures, tracking and camber within the limits of the rules.
Gearbox will last a whole season if you don't miss and few shifts, otherwise take it out yourself and a local gearbox garage charged us 170 pounds.
Body panels well its close racing so expect a few dents and cracks, last season we had two wings and a front bumper all sourced from local breakers or ALS.
Cant race this year as looming divorce beckons so finances have been rained in otherwise we would still be out there.
Car is almost ready for sale and is fully compliant for this years regs apart from the tyres. Just about to put a newer lower mileage engine in it as the other let go on a recent track day.

andye30m3 · Jun 30, 2016

I've pretty much finished building a car for the championship, not 100% sure if I'll end up using it as I've been discussing a drive in a different championship.

Mrowlboy88 · Jul 1, 2016

im selling my Clio 182 which is race prepared. few changes such as ECU and coilovers it would be ready for the Ktech series or its race ready to go tricore, trackday trophy, trackday championship, classic car tin top series plus more etc.
contact me if you want some info. its fully MSA ready, ive used for past two seasons in trackday trophy and been on the podium every round - I'd like to think that's down to me!!

andye30m3 · Oct 12, 2016

board a work so I thought I add a few images of the car so far.

Need to order some race pads and finish fitting the fire extinguisher and then I think it almost done. In the back of my mind I'm hoping to enter it into the Victor meldrew Handicap race at brands hatch at the end of the month.

getikte · Oct 12, 2016

I've been keeping an eye on all the posts and info about the tricolour trophy series. It's something I'd seriously like to be a part of. I've got a PH1 I use on track days at the moment, with a few bits added it should go into production plus but I've been considering starting from scratch and entering production class. Are there any pros and cons? Making it to the grid next year might be a bit of a rush but like the idea of getting a car ready and sorted next year with the idea of competing the following year.

I've read up on the race fees which seem very resonable. Only question i have is what sort of budget for the year do people have in terms of spares and repairs? Guess its a how long is a piece of string senario but my man maths has concluded going from 1 track day a month to entering a series won't really cost much more....

I may be wrong

bob the builder · Oct 12, 2016

i have done production class for the last 2 years.
i work out cost for a race meeting at about 600 quid. so thats fees, fuel, accomadation,food and wear.
but thats for me and family and we normally stay the night before and after.

Tony Hunter · Oct 19, 2016

harry289 said:
yeah you can make your brake pads and tyres last more than one weekend, but you wont be anywhere near the front.

You are taking rubbish.

Tony Hunter · Oct 19, 2016

@andye30m3

Come and race with us at Snett on the 30th october. £360 for 3 races. Bargain.

@Josh · Oct 19, 2016

getikte said:
I've been keeping an eye on all the posts and info about the tricolour trophy series. It's something I'd seriously like to be a part of. I've got a PH1 I use on track days at the moment, with a few bits added it should go into production plus but I've been considering starting from scratch and entering production class. Are there any pros and cons? Making it to the grid next year might be a bit of a rush but like the idea of getting a car ready and sorted next year with the idea of competing the following year.

I've read up on the race fees which seem very resonable. Only question i have is what sort of budget for the year do people have in terms of spares and repairs? Guess its a how long is a piece of string senario but my man maths has concluded going from 1 track day a month to entering a series won't really cost much more....

I may be wrong

I see Robs comment above and he quotes £600 I have done it as cheap as I can and I run in production plus. Probably around an extra £100 on top of your race entry fee but I camp over at the events.

@Josh · Oct 19, 2016

@getikte if you close to Snett on the 30th come down and have a look at the clios and racers

getikte · Oct 20, 2016

Yea that doesnt sound bad at all in terms of costs. I'm not very close to any of the races unfortunately I'm up in newcastle. I will see what I can do as going to one of the races and having a look around is something I really want to do

getikte · Oct 28, 2016

I have been speaking with mark fish about a safety devices cage, there was a cloud over them currently being MSA approved. I emailed safety devices to see if they could shed any light on it and this was their reply:

Hi mark,

Sadly, we do not manufacture a roll cage for the 172 Renault Clio that is MSA/FIA homologated. Our R016 and R017 roll cages were built to MSA spec. up to this year however the interpretation of the regulations are changing and these roll cages no longer fully comply top this. We are in the process of developing a new, bolt-in roll cage that will fully comply with regulations, this will be available from next year.

Should you need more information, please don't hesitate to contact us.

Best regards,

Lili

This being the case, other than the cage they are developing what would be the best route to go down for a MSA spec cage?
also will this effect people currently competing with one of these cages?

scotiamr2t · Oct 28, 2016

Custom cages weld in cage or have someone like @Tom Johnson off here make you a custom bolt in cage if it has to be bolt in

As for it effecting those with them already fitted who compete in MSA events, techincally yes it should/will. In reality it will depend on the scrutineer at each event

getikte · Oct 28, 2016

Ive got the offer of a fairly cheap safety devices cage which has just been test fitted but wanting to compete at some point it doesnt make sense to go for something that wont be suitable :/

Jamie86 · Oct 28, 2016

Which part no longer complies?

getikte · Oct 28, 2016

They just said their r016 and r017 cages no longer comply

eon172 · Oct 28, 2016

FFS, no longer complies? Surely there must be some sort of accepted timeframe for those cages already installed (dated) before the date the reg changes became applicable?

sonny172cup · Oct 28, 2016

lol There will be a "LOT" of unhappy racers, seeing as a large bulk of bolts are these cages.

Jamie86 · Oct 29, 2016

Wonder if dash dodger part? Need to have a read of bluebook updates..

scotiamr2t · Oct 29, 2016

It is the front section that doesn't comply anymore due to the leg of the cage that is supposed to follow the A pillar. Hence safety devices designing a new front section

getikte · Oct 29, 2016

so by the looks of it just replacing the front section should rectify the issue?

Tony Hunter · Oct 31, 2016

Yes, like I did on mine..

K-Tec Racing Clio 182 Championship

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