172/182 Turbo Conversion Kit - £2600

[Fred@BTM]

fast ford - take the reyland lot, honnestly their cars arent that quick IMO, the old spec escort (600 odd bhp) was lapping 1min 30 odd round donnignton yet everyone worshipped that car!

i've seen std cups go round quicker than that!

Yeah I'm mean 2.8 secs to 60mph and 194.7mph top end isn't really that quick...

in a straight line yes, round a track it was going round in the same time as a clio cup road car!

 

[ludaprix]

It seems ludaprix aint satisfied with his cam conversion lol .How could he be? The discernible gain from that conversion, although noticeable wont be mind blowing. I'd say to him, go for the balls out foxon jobbie, if he has the nerve. Your single body will then be redundant, but Andy will take that in account in the final reckoning. lol

not really mate, im very satisfied with it but am getting used to the power now. i wanted to keep my air con so went for the single body. im jus currently contemplating the idea of adding to what i have. i'd rather not have itb's still jus because i want my a/c, this turbo kit seems ideal as you still get to keep the a/c etc.

 

[Fred@BTM]

you can have aircon and bodies

 

[TheJesus]

you can have aircon and bodies

yeah but what's the point? spend a load more on a body conversion only to have shorter trumpets that make a load less power... almost identical power to single body. pointless.

only other possible way around it would involve a lot of fabrication and money, again, pointless imo

 

[Andy_con]

so is anyone going to buy this turbo kit???

 

[TheJesus]

nope, I'd rather spend the same and get less power by doing more to my ITB'd N/A engine... as crazy as that sounds lol

 

[Andy_con]

ITB'd ??????

 

[John D]

Looks like a great value for money conversion.

I'd have this for my car in a shot!

Go on my son!

I'll pass you the spanners

 

[Cookie]

ITB'd ??????

Individual Throttle Bodies

 

[Noodle999]

Their site currently says Price 0.00 EUR - at that price who could refuse?

 

[The Hoff]

Franx, thanks for your quick review. How much quicker did it feel? I'm assuming because it's a smaller turbo on low boost that there's no real lag with it?

Oh and btw, the cup is 80-90kg lighter, not 150kg

 

[Graham Gooch]

Looks like a great value for money conversion.

I'd have this for my car in a shot!

Go on my son!

I'll pass you the spanners

I'll just fit it at work.

Drive it right it next to my workbench and tool locker.

 

[Andy_con]

so if something was going to go wrong, what would it be??

i mean once the turbo is fitting and running???

 

[edde]

so if something was going to go wrong, what would it be??

i mean once the turbo is fitting and running???

How long have you got loads of potential issues.

Clucth going would IMo be the first issues but depend how its installed quality wise.

 

[Andy_con]

i see, so is it a good idea or not???

ahhhh i hate decisions

 

[Graham Gooch]

I'd do it.

In an instant tbh.

Even if it goes wrong, bits on these cars are cheap or readily available.

 

[Andy_con]

i see, ive got a mate coming over in a bit, he works with cars so im gona see what he says.

 

[brisa4984]

i would consider it.

my ff 172 51 plate isnt worth much really and so wouldnt mind moding it even if its for a bit of short lived fun.

 

[inF]

Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 220
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1100
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 203.21
0 - 60 (Secs) : 5.64
0 - 100 (Secs) : 13.82
60 - 100 (Secs) : 8.19
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.02
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 100.69
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.82
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 102.50


ISH....

Doesn't seem realistic. One can go faster than that with much less money. For instance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm12N71zOP8
0-60: 5,5 sec.
0-100: 12,1 sec.

 

[MillerLight]

Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 220
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1100
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 203.21
0 - 60 (Secs) : 5.64
0 - 100 (Secs) : 13.82
60 - 100 (Secs) : 8.19
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.02
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 100.69
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.82
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 102.50


ISH....

Doesn't seem realistic. One can go faster than that with much less money. For instance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm12N71zOP8
0-60: 5,5 sec.
0-100: 12,1 sec.

above is just maths. did it at http://www.letstorquebhp.com/calculator.asp

 

[Andy_con]

i want someone to buy one, fit one and then give feedback

 

[Dan Page]

Could just buy a 200sx!

Powers at the right wheels too

 

[John D]

Could just buy a 200sx!

Powers at the right wheels too

My thinking too tbh. But I can see the attraction.

 

[franx]

Franx, thanks for your quick review. How much quicker did it feel? I'm assuming because it's a smaller turbo on low boost that there's no real lag with it?

Oh and btw, the cup is 80-90kg lighter, not 150kg

Yep, small turbo. It's almost instantly there, almost instant power i'd say. But you know any turbo takes time to give power, so does this one. The exhaust has to get it going so first you hit the throttle and little after it starts to spinnnn :evil:

mind you, they set it up with a completely standard exhaust, cat and all, this has to be restrictive as hell but still huge power gains. (220 hP!?)

I'd say it does 0-60 in about 5,5sec or so ? take off the 17inch wheels and there you go, even more smile on the face i'd think.
it pulled away from a scooby in 5-th gear on the ring, and it was a modded scooby with a lot of NM !

My experience , it feels like a kart.. a lot of fun to drive.

i'm putting my car on a weighing-bridge tommorow because now i'm curious. My car's an import so it had to be tested here in Holland to get it registered. The guy who sold me told me it weighed at 916kg ?? (here my car is called RS Ragnotti, i think it's the same as the Cup)
Does the cup have the crappy chairs (no leather/alcantra ? light weight?) Also no engine bay -isolation, no esp, no airco, lighter windshield/windows, no backscreen/window wiper, no side airbags ?

 

[Graham Gooch]

Could just buy a 200sx!

Powers at the right wheels too

My thinking too tbh. But I can see the attraction.

Yup, knowsit.

 

[franx]

Could just buy a 200sx!

Powers at the right wheels too

This is/ could be endless discussion hahahaha

plenty of nice cars to buy, definately ! This is about making something special that no-one else has... and leaving other cars behind that just simply wo'nt/can't believe what's happening to them when going for it . I like the way the Cup, on good suspension, handles like a kart when it's fast, not many cars out there where you get this feeling.
It's one of the "hottest hatches" around !

 

[nikstar]

Seems to be lots of people with there own oppinions. I am saving every penny i have for this kit. Would like to no what the turbo is cable of in terms or PSI for future upgrading?

 

[haitch]

Seems like a great value kit for a realistic price, tired of listening to those who bleat on about non existent clutch/gearbox issues, 220bhp in the RS is perfect for the road.

 

[franx]

Seems to be lots of people with there own oppinions. I am saving every penny i have for this kit. Would like to no what the turbo is cable of in terms or PSI for future upgrading?

This is a low pressure system, designed NOT to raise the pressure , upgrading would be exhaust i would say.

Once upgrading you'll have to start on engine internals, making you spend loads...

This is a low cost fast little clio-mod

 

[Neil G]

Agree

Once you start moving into big boost then your going to have to a lot of upgrades (internals & ecu not to mention clutch & brakes) and the costs will spiral.

7psi using a nice, small turbo with little intertia/lag sounds like it'll deliver a nice, driveable setup.

 

[cal46]

well im saving all ready dint have any bacon with my breakfrast this morning that saved me 12p should have enuff by 2012 lol

 

[stan*]

The problems will occur when you get power hungry and fit a bleed valve or boost controler.

 

[Jesske]

maybe stupid question, but hos did the dumpvalve sounded?

 

[franx]

maybe stupid question, but hos did the dumpvalve sounded?

Inside you could hear something of a discharge, but no pssj or anything. Have'nt had the chance to hear it from the outside..
I'm not too crazy about it, would want a quiet one.. Fast one in disguise !

 

[Andy_con]

so im assuming the kit is all bolt on, not cutting filing etc...

how long would it take to fit??

 

[stevo172-RWD]

sounds ok but id rather do it proper to start with tbh.
mine s only 9psi 250bhp and im running uprated forged internals lol.
oe gearbox.
helix padel clutch.

 

[Andy_con]

anyone??

im assuming the kit is all bolt on, not cutting filing etc...

how long would it take to fit??

 

[LegoHead]

THis kit is for the boys, be man and go for 15psi.........to be continued..

 

[lewisnutta]

why bother the 172/182 gearbox is fragile enough without the massive torque from a turbo im scared to get mine chipped cos of how s**t the box is and ive got 135 quids worth of top spec gearbox oil used by clio cup teams

 

[The Hoff]

i'm putting my car on a weighing-bridge tommorow because now i'm curious. My car's an import so it had to be tested here in Holland to get it registered. The guy who sold me told me it weighed at 916kg ?? (here my car is called RS Ragnotti, i think it's the same as the Cup)
Does the cup have the crappy chairs (no leather/alcantra ? light weight?) Also no engine bay -isolation, no esp, no airco, lighter windshield/windows, no backscreen/window wiper, no side airbags ?

RS Ragnotti = 172 Cup

172 Cup = 990kg
172 = 1070kg

Something like that.

Again thanks for the update.