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    Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Hello folks

    I have been on CS for long, I have been lurcking around but haven't posted much so I thought I would start a project thread.

    Its going to be pretty brief as I hate typing essay's.

    I decided to go racing in the 2013 SMRC sports and saloons and decided on a Clio.
    The car will be getting built as a track car this year and then extinguishers etc fitted threw the winter.

    A nice 53 plate 172 cup came up with 62,000 miles on the clock and it needed a timing belt, engine mounts and a few other little bits
    but I wasn't worried as I would be changing it all. So I drove it home to Aberdeen from Edinburgh and I was really impressed with the
    way it went, my daily a Corsa VXR would be shown up by one of these in many ways, they are a lot of car for the cash.

    So this is how it stood when I got it home in mid may.





    I then set about finding a lock up to carry out build and got going.








    A few nights work and I was left with this.





    Then I moved onto cleaning and painting the underneath and arches.






    After that was done I moved on to getting this puzzle in, ever tryed putting a square peg in a round hole.




    This is the cage schematic




    Started to put in cage, mostly tacked in before I ran out of gas.







    Put an old seat in place to start mocking up the steering height while I get more gas.




    Started to strip, modify and mock up the suspension.










    Gotta love the camber.





    So far the spec list is.

    Interior:
    Oreca race cage, full dash will be kept for ease of build.
    Sabelt renault sport wheel.
    Seats and harnesses to be decided.




    Body:
    Cup racer brake ducts.
    Cup racer tow eye's.
    Aero locked bumper and bonnet.

    Brake ducts painted and ready to go on.






    Chassis:
    Full cup racer suspension.
    Pure motorsport strut brace & top mounts
    PS axle strengthening kit and spherical bearings.
    Speedline 2118's and williams wheel's.
    Slicks



    Engine:
    Part rebuild after compression test showing good numbers.
    Cat cams 421's.
    Enlarged throttle body.
    Matched inlets.
    PTFE gaskets.
    Magnecor leads.
    ARP con rod bolts
    ACL race bearings on big ends.
    Lightened & balanced flywheel & crankshaft.
    Lightened pulleys.
    P/steering delete.
    Timing belt kit and dephaser pulley.





    Im sure I have forgot about some things and have plenty to do with the parts I have so I will keep it updated when I get a chance.

    Any comments welcome, good or bad, let me know if anything looks wrong as its my first full rebuild.

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Looks like one hell of a project! Subscribed!

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Wasn't meant to be, got a bit carried away

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Got the makings of a great project this mate

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Epic build.

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Awesome!

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    very nice - some very nice parts fitted here! Shame you couldnt of afforded that Sequential gearbox which was forsale with that suspension!

    Are we keeping the car the same colour ?

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Very nice, i'll be keeping an eye on this one.
    As has already been said, you've picked up some nice parts! Have you got driveshafts too?

    I'm still hoping to get my car out next year but time is flying by! Once I've cut my teeth on the sprints and hills, and depending on how I get on with the car, I might consider getting a race licence, so you never know, might see you at Knockhill in a year or two lol

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Quote Originally Posted by northy View Post
    very nice - some very nice parts fitted here! Shame you couldnt of afforded that Sequential gearbox which was forsale with that suspension!

    Are we keeping the car the same colour ?
    Yep same colour so far, inside will be gunmetal to allow a colour change when wanted.

    I thought about it mate and I decided against it, by time Im done it will be cup racer money anyway and could have just bought a cup racer, part of the funs the build for me. As much as I would love to have the sequential box and other parts, I'm free to tune mine out the box with no rewiring/new ecu's. Plus it will be off the shelf parts fitted than can be sourced fairly quickly & cheaply.

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Good project.

    I am after that cage too.

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Subscribed - this looks epic

    I've been trying to find the brake cooling ducts for ages! lol you lucky git
    I'm also kinda wishing I'd gone for the full blown cup racer suspension too

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Got some nice goodies for it there Looks good so far.

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny.s View Post
    Very nice, i'll be keeping an eye on this one.
    As has already been said, you've picked up some nice parts! Have you got driveshafts too?

    I'm still hoping to get my car out next year but time is flying by! Once I've cut my teeth on the sprints and hills, and depending on how I get on with the car, I might consider getting a race licence, so you never know, might see you at Knockhill in a year or two lol
    Driveshafts were the biggest worry I had while deciding on this suspension but I think I have found shafts off the shelf from a larger Renault to suit finally. Winner....but it looks like I'm going to have to adjust the rack for bump steer.

    Im the same mate will be tracking it/sprinting to get everything ironed out and get a spare parts list to go racing.
    Yeah would be good to see a few more cars similar in the championship, to be honest the Clio isn't really competitive in sport & saloons unless you go forced induction and road based tyres.

    Been keeping an eye on your project too, fabrication is A1- credit to you! What route you thinking with engine?

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletcher View Post
    Good project.

    I am after that cage too.
    Quality cage, fit is so tight and coping is almost spot on. On problem IMO is it doesn't pick up rear turrets or axle mount.

    I would have a custom cages cage in hindsight but this will do with adjustments.

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swede cup View Post
    Quality cage, fit is so tight and coping is almost spot on. On problem IMO is it doesn't pick up rear turrets or axle mount.

    I would have a custom cages cage in hindsight but this will do with adjustments.
    Oh right. Hopefully have a look at Tom's cup this week, he has just bought on of these race cages.

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cup_Phil View Post
    Subscribed - this looks epic

    I've been trying to find the brake cooling ducts for ages! lol you lucky git
    I'm also kinda wishing I'd gone for the full blown cup racer suspension too
    Brake ducts can be had easy enough if your willing to pay

    Suspension doesn't seem the easiest to fit and get all the angles right but should be worth it. I'm surprised it hasen't been done before with a manual box.

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    I think it has - there as a progress blog on here when I first joined up and the lad had fitted the full cup suspension to it. Or at least he was doing.

    Do you fancy PM'ing me how I'd get hold of a set? I'm willing to pay lol

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Is that the thread where 2 guys were going to go racing in the tin tops and then decided to strip car halfway through when their plans changed.Pm me an offer for mine, bare in mind the deflector plates will be kept as there harder to get a hold of but easy to make with a cardboard box, some fiberglass and a bit of thought.

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swede cup View Post
    Driveshafts were the biggest worry I had while deciding on this suspension but I think I have found shafts off the shelf from a larger Renault to suit finally. Winner....but it looks like I'm going to have to adjust the rack for bump steer.

    Im the same mate will be tracking it/sprinting to get everything ironed out and get a spare parts list to go racing.
    Yeah would be good to see a few more cars similar in the championship, to be honest the Clio isn't really competitive in sport & saloons unless you go forced induction and road based tyres.

    Been keeping an eye on your project too, fabrication is A1- credit to you! What route you thinking with engine?

    I'm sure I read somwhere on here about longer driveshafts from another model, what are they from again, Megane Scenic?

    I did wonder what you where going to do about bump steer.

    You've probably seen on my thread that I moved the rack up by 20mm, cant go anymore than that or the steering rods are in danger of hitting the chassis legs.
    To get the rest of the correction I was planning to use spherical rod ends, drill out the taper in the upright to take a 12 or 14mm bolt and then space the arm down 19mm +/- leaving enough for shims/washers to fine tune it and get the bump steer down to as little as possible. Raising the rack 20mm meant that there should be less strain on the bolt/spacer/rod end arrangement at the upright.

    Out of curiosity, how long are the pins that go into the bottom of the uprights, between mounting faces? ie how much do they raise the roll centre?

    Yeah, definitely be good to have some more 2.0 n/a cars out there, be brilliant if there was enough to justify a class split for them.

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    Re: Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

    looks like its going to be an absolute awesome build i will be keeping an eye on this!

 

 
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