Parts diagram needed for Gear linkage

[Chip-mk1]

Assuming all you have altered is a slightly longer section of the rod between the lever and the bend in the rod, and given that there is essentially zero twist in the rod itself on this part, I find it hard to see how that is exaggerating the play so much really.
Any pictures of the mods to the rod itself that might help shed light on why that is altering how it behaves.

[BIGASH]

I just thought by it being longer then it would cause more of a pivot point on the change ( I am clueless though lol ) I will get photo's tonight and post up, also had video's but then my phone decided not to save them!

Thanks

[EVOgone]

Item 12 can cause huge play in the whole linkage if it's worn. If in doubt it's suggested to change it (its ref. number: 77 00 872 205 and approx £4 from Renault). As Danny said, Item 10 sometimes also can cause play if its bigger ball is worn or snapped. Only older Renaults use rigid plastic ball (it tends to snap or wear off), the newer ones use a flexible resin ball. Common problem that the bush of this small rod gets worn and results huge lateral play at the gear knob. I have a small metal bush for replacing this one, but my bush cannot be fitted if the long linkage has got a 'built in' pivot.

I have just got a new linkage bar and the old one has a resin ball and the new one has a softer plastic covering. Got a new no12 bush as well and the slop has gone but the gear shift is a bit stiffer (think its down to the softer plastic vs the harder resin. The new plastic covered one also has plastic covering the linkage conector at the end which makes it so it doesnt fit so i have cut this off so its the raw matal like the origional. Dont know if this is for a later linkage to gearstick rod but dont see why you would have it.

[Danith]

Is this where the 'number 12' goes - in the centre of the pic? Mine's squeaky as hell here! Ordered the bush just in case it is that.


IMAG0337 by foodbeast04, on Flickr

[BIGASH]

Yes mate 12 goes into there

[BIGASH]

I have taken both these video's with the car in gear, the play really is bad. Half of it seems to be cause by the selector shaft going up and down, Is there any way to stop this? I guess not as it needs to move to select the different gears. There seems to be play in the bush 12 but I don't know if it's a normal amount, Play also in the hole for the selector and the pin but don't know if the pin is worn or the hole in the selector. Looking at the video's what parts should I change? I'm thinking bush 12, and the pin 10. Can I change the spring 23 to try and stop the amount the selector goes up and down?

What are 28, 29 and 30?

Should I also change the actual selector shaft end?

Thanks

[Tony Hunter]

I've just picked up No12,

Bush Select R19 7700872205 £2.20 inc vat.

[BIGASH]

Is it easy to fit Tony?

[Tony Hunter]

Circlip pliers, 5mins.

[BIGASH]

Perfect Ordered a set of them from Ebay this morning but was expecting it to be more difficult than that!

[BIGASH]

Just ordered 10,12,13 and 30! Fingers crossed this fixes it! If not then think I need to look at the gear linkage end

[Danith]

You beat me to it! Was gonna ask how hard it is to fit cos I can't see how to do it, but then again I won't be fitting it cos I'm a desk dude.

[BIGASH]

I'm useless with things like this! If I manage it I will take some photo's and explain it for you The tool only cost 2.10 delivered from ebay!

[Danith]

Cheers buddy! My mate will box it off for me, I just like to watch and understand stuff! Yeah I ordered the part off T21ADS here. Let me know how you get on. Does yours squeak it's tits off too? I can see in your video that it's split on the 'number 12' bush, is that why it's goosed?

[BIGASH]

Haha sounds like the easier option

Same he has sorted me out with lot's of bits recently!

Will do, no not really just loads of play unfortunately. I wouldn't hear it squeak even if it did lol! I can't even hear when a wheel bearing goes in my car

[Tony Hunter]

Take out circlip,

pull downwards,

12 will pull apart,

put 12 back on yoke,

push back into gearbox,

refit circlip.

Oh and put a little white grease on ball end before putting 12 on the end.

[Danith]

Take out circlip,

pull downwards,

12 will pull apart,

put 12 back on yoke,

push back into gearbox,

refit circlip.

Oh and put a little white grease on ball end before putting 12 on the end.

Cheers Tony Toni Tone!

[Dan@519Automotive]

Attempt to Take out circlip,

swear when the 4 different sizes of circlip pliers you have won't fit

fight with it for 10 minutes until all blood has left your arms and it finally gives in

pull downwards,

12 will pull apart, and probably fall to pieces so you can't see how it should go back together

put 12 back on yoke,

push back into gearbox,

remove and try again the other way up

and again

and again

attempt to refit circlip

push like f**k to make 12 go in far enough

attempt to fit circlip

hit 12 with something

refit circlip

Relise you should have greased inside 12 before fitting, so remove circlip.....

EFA

[BIGASH]

Oh and put a little white grease on ball end

Sorry what?! lol I mis-read that at first

EFA

Haha that sounds more like I imagined it from looking at it the other night lol! I will await my cir-clip pliers not fitting and go from there

[Tony Hunter]

EFA

LOL