Suspension - Current setup too harsh; Standard springs v Eibach?

[tameracingdriver]

My Phase 1 currently has (I believe) Apex lowering springs on.

The ride is very harsh, and IMO not really suitable for many of the roads I drive on. Fine on billiard smooth roads, hopeless on anything else.

Given how I am planning to restore to standard (ish), I am just wondering if standard springs or something like Eibach springs would be better.

By all accounts, the standard springs will give a rather high ride height, and probably the most body roll? But more compliance, and original!

The Eibach springs will give better appearance, but will they give improved handling over standard or is it still a compromise?

Any opinions?

[JackJack]

Eibach sportlines will be fine. 100x better than apex.

[tameracingdriver]

Eibach sportlines will be fine. 100x better than apex.

Indeed, but I think what I want to know is how do they compare with standard stuff in ride, handling.

I think we're in agreement about these Apex springs (if thats what they are). Crap.

[Skeeter]

I went from standard 172 shocks and springs to Cup shocks and Eibach Sportlines, and the ride is now tediously uncomfortable on normal roads. It jiggles and crashes over bumps, and those concrete motorways where its laid in slabs with a join every few meters are horrible.

But on track its a million times better. And as mine is now mostly used on track and the only driving on the road it really does it to and from track days I'm willing to put up with it.

If you want your car to be quiet (ish) and comfortable on the road with no plan to track it then go standard. The road handling difference is minimal, its only when you really push (like on a track) that the body roll of the standard setup shows through. As an all round road setup the standard stuff is best. Renault know what they were doing.

[tameracingdriver]

I went from standard 172 shocks and springs to Cup shocks and Eibach Sportlines, and the ride is now tediously uncomfortable on normal roads. It jiggles and crashes over bumps, and those concrete motorways where its laid in slabs with a join every few meters are horrible.

But on track its a million times better. And as mine is now mostly used on track and the only driving on the road it really does it to and from track days I'm willing to put up with it.

If you want your car to be quiet (ish) and comfortable on the road with no plan to track it then go standard. The road handling difference is minimal, its only when you really push (like on a track) that the body roll of the standard setup shows through. As an all round road setup the standard stuff is best. Renault know what they were doing.

Thanks for that opinion, that is very helpful.

My car would rarely be used on track, it would be 99% a road car, so sounds like standard might be the way to go, but I welcome any other comments.

[tameracingdriver]

A couple of other Q.s people.

Do I just need to buy springs or is there anything else I will need to buy?

Are phase 1 & 2 springs the same?

I've seen these on ebay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RENAULT-CL...#ht_720wt_1399

[JackJack]

Do I just need to buy springs or is there anything else I will need to buy?

Are phase 1 & 2 springs the same?

Nothing else unless your shocks are worn out.

Yes afaik.

[tameracingdriver]

Ta mate!