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  1. #361
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    Hopefully the charger gets sorted out for you.

    Congrats on the mag feature though

  2. #362
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig Davis View Post
    Well as much as I'm gutted my car didn't make it to FCS I spoke to Davy Lewis of Performance French Cars while I was there & soon as I get a new charger sorted he's going to do a mag feature on it so I'm over the moon with that as that was my aim.
    good to hear that, i had mentioned the sunflower to dav in passing a little while ago,
    good to hear your gonna keep plugging too....

  3. #363
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    how you getting on with the charger mate?

    is this just really bad luck or are the seals a weak spot if yours is the 3rd to go (as reading above) im still very much between a charger or a MWM / Chip style turbo. either way just wish list at the moment

  4. #364
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    Keep ya chin up mate, like you said its all part of modding a car. Car looks outstanding though I must say .

  5. #365
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    I still get inspired by reading this from the start again and again. Just wish I could start my project off but don't see it anytime soon unfortunately. Just doing few little bits here and there at moment

  6. #366
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    We need an update in here tbh

    Will it be sorted for CSS?

  7. #367
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    Looks like rotrex will be changing the seals on new production chargers at some point
    http://www.rotrex.com/Home/Technolog...nt_Update.aspx no effecting the c30 atm but maybe soon

    the main part being

    'Nevertheless it is always best to position the supercharger above the canister and oil cooler to avoid any risk of leakage in case of wear or damage to the high speed spindle seal.'

    so is the canister above the charger on these installs?

    Although it does state in the install guide 'Place the oil canister with the cap below or level with the supercharger’s shaft. Use the bracket supplied in the oil set. Make sure the canister is placed upright. Leave the plastic plugs in place to prevent debris from entering the system'

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    FFS, it sits right at the bottom on the Clio.

    Looks like that's not for the new seals and recommended on old ones. Going to have to rejig all mine by looks of things

  9. #369
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    So how low does the charger sit? From the pics ive seen it seems low. Is it possiblee to get both the cooler and canister actually lower? Surely the coolers are already low as reasonabley possible

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    I could get my cooler inline, I need to rearrange a few bits anyway



    You can see where the first blue hose goes to the cooler on my old one, it's basically same place now.

    It would be impossible to move the canister anywhere though?!

  11. #371
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s



    By luck, I had the cooler below the charger but god knows where you'd put the canister low enough :/

  12. #372
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    so could be a cause of the premature failure on the seals, maybe with the canister above the SC you are causing some additonal presure and causing the blow.
    From reading stuff on hondas and beemers, they are running these c30 chargers for 50 to 70k miles with no issue...
    so does seam strange that on the clios they are failing....

    Although also if they are failing on the rollers maybe they are not getting good enough air flow to keep them cool....
    Whats the operational temp on the oil and is anyone monitoring this to make sure the cooling is sufficiant ?

  13. #373
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    Strange to see the failures as the 306 boys have been running them fine for 4+ years and the only failure so far was due to a pinched oil feed pipe.my install is still going strong after 25k and 3 years

  14. #374
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    Cracking build! Always expect setback's when doing this kind of thing, the way it goes pal!

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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    Anyone have a temp sensor running in the SC oil ?
    Just wondering, since they are passive cooled how do they hold up when sat idling ?? Or for example you get stuck in a jam on the m25 for a few hours..

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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    Would it not be possible to fit the oil cooler where Bomber has put his, then mount the oil tank in the wheel arch where the original carbon canister was.
    By mounting it low with a hole cut so the fill was sticking into the engine bay it would keep the tank level with the charger, give air flow to cool the oil.

  17. #377
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    Epic build, shame about the charger and I look forward to seeing it running.

  18. #378
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    dont think many/any used oil temp sensor in the SC fluid.

    Neil, thats actually a pretty good idea, so long as it was still being run with arch liners as they are quite delicate as a whole. Although it would still need easy access as they need checking regularly

  19. #379
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    apparently its just being ran in as we speak, just needs a few more miles on it then it can go for its propper map its got a base map on atm according to one of craigs mates, which will be 200+

  20. #380
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    Re: Supercharged Sunflower + Forged Engine + Brembos + Recaros + 16" F1s

    Glad to hear its up and running.

    CSS?

 

 
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