Mass Effect 3

[Plummer]

If you pick the red ending, what I say is true.
The other endings he doesn't.

I liked the ending alright! Just think it needs extended a bit.

I think it's to do with promoting characters to the SP, like 40 points a turn or something, I've done it 3 times.

[Brand86]

You mean you've completed it 3 times?

Ah the red ending is a bit sinister though isn't it? In the green ending it all seems quite a jolly ending, and Shephard doesn't definitely die (although throwing himself into an energy beam which then explodes probably isn't great...

The bit before where you learn he might be a VI after dying is quite interesting though, and all the people complaining about not explaining everything...that was why it was quite a good ending I thought, as most medias leave some stuff open to interpretation, I would just liked to have known more about the origins of the Reapers, and if they are just in the Milky Way or all galaxies.

I suppose a short epilogue for each major character would be good though, e.g. Garrus becomes noble Turrian leader, Jack becomes a biotic master etc etc...

[Plummer]

Right I have to indulge spoiler info to explain..

The concept of the ending is that Shepard after being hit with the beam when assaulting is knocked unconscious is that the rest is in his head..
(I can't recall if you believed that or not).

But basically, it's a Reaper introcdonation in his head, the blue (good) view, is the reaper telling Shepard it's the good view, not that it actually is.
If you recall Anderson AND the Illusive man said the Reapers cannot be controlled, therefore the blue ending is a lie, Shepard dies.
(Notice in the preview the Illusive man being absorbed)

Green ending is kind of a mix, but again Shepard dies. Can't remember much of it.

Red ending is the good ending, but like said, the Reaper is trying to tell you it's the wrong decision, notice he says 'remember you are part synthetic', but doesn't actually say you will die. You've been fighting all this time to kill them, and most people don't pick this ending, because they're being told by a Reaper it's the bad ending.
(Notice Anderson destroying them).
After cutscenes, Shepard is seen in the rubble back on earth, taking a sharp breath from unconsciousses, which also supports it's in his head.



Proofs of this theory here, lots to make you think about it: http://drsteinman.hubpages.com/hub/P...fect-3s-Ending
Which I fully believe..

And I agree it should have more closure than it did.

[Brand86]

Interesting. Hadn't thought it as deeply as that (games rarely require you to ever engage the old grey matter)...will read that link later.

But how do they know the reapers can't be controlled, Anderson presumably has no more knowledge than Shephard and the Illusive Man was actively trying to control the reapers, Shephard was just talking with them (or their superiors, depending on what significance you give to the "boy")

[iain187]

some guy i play fifa with made this lol http://kotaku.com/5900629/alternativ...e-official-one

[Plummer]

Interesting. Hadn't thought it as deeply as that (games rarely require you to ever engage the old grey matter)...will read that link later.

But how do they know the reapers can't be controlled, Anderson presumably has no more knowledge than Shephard and the Illusive Man was actively trying to control the reapers, Shephard was just talking with them (or their superiors, depending on what significance you give to the "boy")

I can't recall which point, but there is a point, where after the Illusive man has been trying to control them, he says it's just not possible.
I don't know why I threw Anderson in there, probs mixing it up with him destroying them!

[Brand86]

Yeh IM sort of flips out under pressure and says he isn't in charge any more and is basically under their control...Shephard tries to get him to do the right thing but he can't. The you get a renegade trigger and shoot him as Anderson also gets shot. But then the boy Shephard speaks to says that IM couldn't do it, and the Reapers were no longer the solution to the problem. I kind of took his word at face value...that it was time for something new.

[Plummer]

Yeah, most people listen to the boy, but most people don't realise properly at the time that he is a Reaper, hence why so few people destroy them!

[Brand86]

But how do you know he is a Reaper, except for internet rumours? He says the Reapers were created (they are synthetic so must be) so someone must have created them, and for a reason.

Also, the end bit (with the 3 possible endings) - I didn't have a choice IIRC, just ran up to the beam and it went into auto-pilot for the ending?

[Plummer]

He refers to them as 'we' much like the geth do.

You do have a choice, you either go left for blue, or right for red. Green is straight on.

[Bodge!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythY_...&feature=share

Very well put together, makes a lot of sense!

[Brand86]

He refers to them as 'we' much like the geth do.

You do have a choice, you either go left for blue, or right for red. Green is straight on.

Ah I see...didn't realise that I just went straight on! lol

The "boy" said he (or they) created the Reapers as part of the solution, so the Reapers and their creators are "we" as a collective, rather than in the Geth sense...at least how I perceived the meaning anyway?

[Plummer]

From what I read,

To get Shepard to live you Need 5000 Effective Military Strength
and choose to destroy the reapers.

Had to rewatch it, yeah, he's created them. So in my eyes, he doesn't want the Reapers destroyed, as the solution cannot continue.

[Brand86]

I think though that the Reapers were created to stop other advanced intelligent life either wiping out all life, or perhaps discovering some darker secret of the universe...therefore the Reapers come and destroy all advanced life, but not all life...if they wanted to kill everything presumably they could, so their must be some logic to their plan, and the boy even admits that with the revelations of ME3 that plan "solution" no longer works. They are the tools to do a job and presumably under command, so if the boy / spirit / thing wants them to stop, they will. The Reapers aren't evil just following their rules...that is why I think there is so much debate in ME3 whether synthetic life has free will like organic life (if you think organic life does have free will) or not...

[spirez]

Just finished this. I LOVED it! For me it's on a par with final fantasy 7 for my favourite game/series ever. The character interaction is immense, never has a game made me think so hard about which dialogue choices to take!

Tempted to go through the whole series again.

Played the first two on 360 but stupidly rented the last on ps3 so none of my characters/relations carried over. I didn't even meet jack

Epic

[Brand86]

Spirez - why on Earth did you do that?!

I need to go through and do the ending again now the extra bits have been created. Either that or just watch them on Youtube. For some reaon even though this is probably my favourite game ever, once I complete each one I never touch them again.

[Jamie16v]

I bought ME1 when it first came out and played it for about 20 minutes and ended up selling. Purchased again a few months later and spent about 50 hours on it. Purchased ME2 after completing it and spent about 20 minutes on it again and yet to play it. I'll eventually get round to buying ME3 and spending a few days of my life on it but I need a good few solid hours gameplay on it first!

[Brand86]

You will also need to spend a good 15 hours or so on the MP to get to the 100% galactic readiness too!

[Plummer]

You will also need to spend a good 15 hours or so on the MP to get to the 100% galactic readiness too!

Took me about 4-5 tbh!

[Brand86]

I was doing it with a few different characters and might have been shorter, but seeing how you're usually top of all the leader boards on my friends list I am willing to accept you're probably just better than I am!