I have a Helix sprung 4 paddle clutch in mine, and it is no problem at all. other people have driven it too and never had any problems either. I had heard of horror stories, but don't believe everything you read.
If you wanna try my clutch, you are welcome to...............
mate had one in an rs turbo.. its a bit grabby, but was used to it within 5 minutes....
I can't stand paddle clutches, and I've time and again proven that for road use a stronger cover plate is the way to go. Only real need for a paddle is under hard use for serious motorsport, and even then it should be with the knowledge that your flywheel and pressure plate will get eaten (that's why they get lighter with use.....they're doing less). I've had a paddle clutch ruin a flywheel in 3k by munching its way into it, leaving me with a 3mm deep groove in my flywheel.
Sorry Danny but it must have been fitted wrong then, because my paddle has done 10k, and there's not a spot of wear on it anywhere, when i last had to take off to refit my flywheel correctly after it came loose! ( it was fitted by GDI)
danny you're either talking out the wrong hole there, been unlucky or using cheap parts, as daz says, on a helix paddle after 10K we saw 0.11mm wear which is sod all
clio flywheel seems harder than the 200sx one i'm refering to, but the last helix cover i saw with about 10k on it was pretty munched. There's no need for them anyway, stronger clamping cover will increased torque handling, and with NA you'll never have huge torque. My RPS organic clutch on my 200sx for example was rated to 410lb/ft
and I wouldn't call £170 for the paddle plate alone cheap. I've seen the same results time and again. Paddle plate almost untouched, cover or flywheel ruined. think of the effect race pads have on disks....same thing
f**king jap s**te, we're on about proper crap here, made with love and garlic, renault flywheels are manchester with a paddle
still munches the cover though, and they're over £200 a pop. Pointless waste of parts when a more freindly to use item will do the job just as well and last longer
not on our alcon stuff, 10K we had sod all wear, and i'm not just saying that to piss you off, its atucally true!!
How much are the alcon clutches Fred and where do you get them from? I gave up looking for one after a while and just bought a helix
well they stopped using them as they had a few explode and changed to helix, haven't tried to buy one in a while but you might be able to still get one, i'll send you some details
Yeah i heard that to must of just been a dodgy run of them, Alcon stuff is top notch usually.
So final opinions is the majority seem to Think it's not ideal in a road car but you cam certainly live with it?
well i hope Helix have got a bit quicker these days, 2 years we waited for them to do a V6 clutch then they decided they couldn't be bothered
They're not ideal for stop start driving. Not the end of the world though, depends what you want it for? Just imagine the distance of clutch pedal travel being nearly nothing from engaged to disengaged and that's what it's like. If you're really sensitive with your foot it's no problem, but it will catch you out as soon as you stop thinking about it.
And further to what other people put, no more hill starts sitting on the clutch, you will have to use the handbrake! and as for traffic, i learnt to leave a bigger gap, so i can trundle along in 1st at idle(ish) so as to not use the clutch.
I'm certain Paul@RStuning was running an organic clutch in his SC clio, so in my eyes a paddle clutch is OTT for 99.8% of people on here.
at end of the day the clutch is rated to same torque as the gearbox, so guess what will go after the clutch, if you don't look after it!