+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2
Results 21 to 37 of 37

Thread: Civic Type R Engine !!

  1. #21
    ClioSport Club Member Merk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    No? Didn't think so, STFU noob, FRS> YOU.
    Posts
    2,456
    Car
    MK2 FRS, Questions?

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Quote Originally Posted by _Nero_ View Post
    S2k is no quicker in a straight line than an EP3 (neither is the DC5 in real terms, only having +/- 20bhp extra). They shine in the corners though...

    Think you'll find an S2000 pulls on a CTR no probs mate, My mate has one, not done a thing to it as he's an old man ( 33 ) and he pulls away from me no problem.

  2. #22
    ClioSport Club Member Turkish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    I'm a c*nt, deal with it
    Posts
    23,238
    Car
    The Range

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_172 View Post
    compaired to a B series or K20 it is lol, ive yet to come up against a honda thats quicker than my 172 and ive had a blast with everything other than an s2k and a dc5
    My dad had an EP3 for a couple of years when they first came out which I drove a fair bit and I'm on my second RS so I think I've got a pretty good basis for comparison. Numerous drags with a mate who also had one and and tbh from a standstill or in gear there was very little to separate the two until you got towards 3figures when the CTR would edge away gradually as the 1*2 ran out of steam.

  3. #23
    Forum User
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Survivalist Enclave
    Posts
    1,502

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Quote Originally Posted by Merk View Post
    Think you'll find an S2000 pulls on a CTR no probs mate, My mate has one, not done a thing to it as he's an old man ( 33 ) and he pulls away from me no problem.
    Being an older man (34 ) and having owned both an AP1 and an EP3 - and used both on track - the S2K is faster through corners but is no faster in a straight line. I guarantee it.

    To say an S2000 pulls away "no problem" from an EP3 CTR is nonsense, sorry. *Unless it's wet - The Civic had shocking grip on stock Bridgestones!

    Honda also quote both cars as having similar 0-60 times. S2K in 6.2 and EP3 in 6.5.

    0.3s is such a small factor that you'd really not notice it in real terms.

    Pic Whoring:




  4. #24
    ClioSport Club Member Merk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    No? Didn't think so, STFU noob, FRS> YOU.
    Posts
    2,456
    Car
    MK2 FRS, Questions?

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Quote Originally Posted by _Nero_ View Post
    Being an older man (34 ) and having owned both an AP1 and an EP3 - and used both on track - the S2K is faster through corners but is no faster in a straight line. I guarantee it.

    To say an S2000 pulls away "no problem" from an EP3 CTR is nonsense, sorry. *Unless it's wet - The Civic had shocking grip on stock Bridgestones!

    Honda also quote both cars as having similar 0-60 times. S2K in 6.2 and EP3 in 6.5.

    0.3s is such a small factor that you'd really not notice it in real terms.

    Pic Whoring:




    3rd gear roll against my mates, even, soon as 4th gears in he's pulling away... hence where i'm getting my info from.

  5. #25
    ClioSport Club Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Northampton
    Posts
    407
    Car
    P1 Clio V6

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Quote Originally Posted by _Nero_ View Post
    Are you trying to say people have transplanted a Civic Type-R engine (K20a) into an S2000?

    If you are saying that, why would you swap the 240bhp 2.0ltr 4-pot (F20c) in the S2K, for a 197bhp 2.0ltr 4 (K20a)?

    If you reckon you can get 500bhp by strapping a turbo onto a stock F20c, your engine won't last 5 minutes. A guy tried this on S2Ki and ended up blowing it to bits and replacing all of the bits he should have uprated to begin with.

    And the link you posted shows a mini with a B18 in it (from an ITR). The B16b was used in the old shape (JDM-only FK9 CTR).

    Re OP: Civic EP3 - Engine is pretty solid, but gearboxes give up at ~300bhp.

    Sorry fella, wasn't quoting from engine numbers. Was just making a point of how strong Vtecs are in general. Your right about the mini. It is a Type R engine but from an Integra.

    This was the turbo s2000 I remember. Not sure if its 700bhp but its definatly bloody quick for a stock bottom end.

    http://videos.streetfire.net/video/7...ell_637353.htm

  6. #26
    ClioSport Club Member Martin_172's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Stirling, Scotland
    Posts
    8,841
    Car
    dCi Dyn 100 & PH1 172

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Quote Originally Posted by Merk View Post
    Is your 172 standard? I've never had a problem with any RS clio since i've had my fn2, after about 90 or so anyway, off the mark I reckon a 172/182 would hump me though..
    mildly breathed on, 190bhp 160lb/ft.

    mates ek9 ctr used to pull on me in first as his LSD gave him a better start, 2nd gear upwords tho the 172 used to pull on it.

    never had a standing start blast with an ep3 but had a blast up a motorway sliproad then down the motorway, he got a couple seconds head start before i got on the sliproad and i reeled him in and in but didnt pass him untill after 140 when he started running out of steam. it had an exhaust on it though dont know what if anything else.

  7. #27
    ClioSport Club Member sideways danny's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Bedford, probably doing a 182 cambelt
    Posts
    6,065
    Car
    cammed to fcuk RSI

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Sadly, the K20 is extremely good (never been a fan of v-tec).
    Completely stock internals engine with a Rotrex C30-94 at 0.8bar made 310bhp. It would have done more easliy. Andy Mapped a modified N/A K20 in an elise and it made 277bhp with more to come if he raised the limiter

  8. #28
    ClioSport Club Member SpaceMonkey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Wallington, Surrey
    Posts
    718
    Car
    RB 182 with CUP packs

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Quote Originally Posted by _Nero_ View Post
    S2k is no quicker in a straight line than an EP3 (neither is the DC5 in real terms, only having +/- 20bhp extra). They shine in the corners though...
    The DC5 or JDM CTR are quicker in a straight line. People just look @ the headline 20BHP difference, the power delivery is alot more aggressive in the DC5 & JDM CTR.

  9. #29
    ClioSport Club Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Coldland
    Posts
    4,082
    Car
    Ph1

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Reason why Honda based engines are reliable is they dont run enough torque to break or stress components


    Jokes aside well engineerd lumps. Know a couple of lads who have had success and failure with Honda tuning.

  10. #30
    ClioSport Club Member Mark One's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    northants/oxon
    Posts
    6,152
    Car
    ValverInBits, Polo Derv

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Don't they put the gearbox on the other side? transplant would be tricky

  11. #31
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    N.Wales
    Posts
    1,512
    Car
    2004 Integra DC5 Type R

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Quote Originally Posted by caister View Post
    I talking about the engine in stock form. IMO it lacks low down grunt and has to be driven way to hard to get the best out of it and the one my friend had was very thirsty.

    However I do agree that as far as reliabilty goes theres nothing that can touch them. Theres a video on youtube of one of these running without oil and water for a very long time before failing.
    My DC5 is no more thirsy than my 182 was

    Low down power is nowhere as bad as i thought it would be, pulls great in 6th when cruising at 70mph

  12. #32
    ClioSport Club Member Turkish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    I'm a c*nt, deal with it
    Posts
    23,238
    Car
    The Range

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    lol at the Torque comments. Out of the box an ep3 gives 145 lb-ft and a 182 150 lb-ft. 1*2's are lazy off cam and need to be kept over 5k to get decent acceleration out of too.

  13. #33
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    N.Wales
    Posts
    1,512
    Car
    2004 Integra DC5 Type R

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_172 View Post
    mildly breathed on, 190bhp 160lb/ft.

    mates ek9 ctr used to pull on me in first as his LSD gave him a better start, 2nd gear upwords tho the 172 used to pull on it.

    never had a standing start blast with an ep3 but had a blast up a motorway sliproad then down the motorway, he got a couple seconds head start before i got on the sliproad and i reeled him in and in but didnt pass him untill after 140 when he started running out of steam. it had an exhaust on it though dont know what if anything else.

    You really think an LSD helps that much on a standing start? I don't. They help put the power down when cornering by switching power between the drive shafts, they can also help against torque stear but thats not a masive problem with good chassis and not so "massive" power

  14. #34
    ClioSport Club Member Martin_172's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Stirling, Scotland
    Posts
    8,841
    Car
    dCi Dyn 100 & PH1 172

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    it helps enough to give it a half car head start as the clio scrambles off the line

  15. #35
    ClioSport Club Member caister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Ashford Hill, Newbury
    Posts
    2,915
    Car
    PH1 172 Sport

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Quote Originally Posted by GazM View Post
    My DC5 is no more thirsy than my 182 was

    Low down power is nowhere as bad as i thought it would be, pulls great in 6th when cruising at 70mph
    hmmmm I'm starting to think ive only had experiance of a sick Type-R!!

  16. #36
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    N.Wales
    Posts
    1,512
    Car
    2004 Integra DC5 Type R

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Quote Originally Posted by caister View Post
    hmmmm I'm starting to think ive only had experiance of a sick Type-R!!
    Yeah possibly mate, i know a few people with ep3's and they've never said anything about fuel consuption. My bese mate has a 255bhp ep3 and it seems fine on fuel. Just keep out of vtec to save fuel really, i'd honestly say though there's not much between the clio and dc5 fuel wise (but that might change when i fit my mugen ecu in a couple of weeks )

  17. #37
    ClioSport Club Member caister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Ashford Hill, Newbury
    Posts
    2,915
    Car
    PH1 172 Sport

    Re: Civic Type R Engine !!

    Quote Originally Posted by GazM View Post
    Yeah possibly mate, i know a few people with ep3's and they've never said anything about fuel consuption. My bese mate has a 255bhp ep3 and it seems fine on fuel. Just keep out of vtec to save fuel really, i'd honestly say though there's not much between the clio and dc5 fuel wise (but that might change when i fit my mugen ecu in a couple of weeks )
    I love the DC5 its definately near the top of the list for my next car.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts