My dad had an EP3 for a couple of years when they first came out which I drove a fair bit and I'm on my second RS so I think I've got a pretty good basis for comparison. Numerous drags with a mate who also had one and and tbh from a standstill or in gear there was very little to separate the two until you got towards 3figures when the CTR would edge away gradually as the 1*2 ran out of steam.
Being an older man (34) and having owned both an AP1 and an EP3 - and used both on track - the S2K is faster through corners but is no faster in a straight line. I guarantee it.
To say an S2000 pulls away "no problem" from an EP3 CTR is nonsense, sorry.*Unless it's wet - The Civic had shocking grip on stock Bridgestones!
Honda also quote both cars as having similar 0-60 times. S2K in 6.2 and EP3 in 6.5.
0.3s is such a small factor that you'd really not notice it in real terms.
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Sorry fella, wasn't quoting from engine numbers. Was just making a point of how strong Vtecs are in general. Your right about the mini. It is a Type R engine but from an Integra.
This was the turbo s2000 I remember. Not sure if its 700bhp but its definatly bloody quick for a stock bottom end.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/7...ell_637353.htm
mildly breathed on, 190bhp 160lb/ft.
mates ek9 ctr used to pull on me in first as his LSD gave him a better start, 2nd gear upwords tho the 172 used to pull on it.
never had a standing start blast with an ep3 but had a blast up a motorway sliproad then down the motorway, he got a couple seconds head start before i got on the sliproad and i reeled him in and in but didnt pass him untill after 140 when he started running out of steam. it had an exhaust on it though dont know what if anything else.
Sadly, the K20 is extremely good (never been a fan of v-tec).
Completely stock internals engine with a Rotrex C30-94 at 0.8bar made 310bhp. It would have done more easliy. Andy Mapped a modified N/A K20 in an elise and it made 277bhp with more to come if he raised the limiter
Reason why Honda based engines are reliable is they dont run enough torque to break or stress components
Jokes aside well engineerd lumps. Know a couple of lads who have had success and failure with Honda tuning.
Don't they put the gearbox on the other side? transplant would be tricky
lol at the Torque comments. Out of the box an ep3 gives 145 lb-ft and a 182 150 lb-ft. 1*2's are lazy off cam and need to be kept over 5k to get decent acceleration out of too.
You really think an LSD helps that much on a standing start? I don't. They help put the power down when cornering by switching power between the drive shafts, they can also help against torque stear but thats not a masive problem with good chassis and not so "massive" power
it helps enough to give it a half car head start as the clio scrambles off the line
Yeah possibly mate, i know a few people with ep3's and they've never said anything about fuel consuption. My bese mate has a 255bhp ep3 and it seems fine on fuel. Just keep out of vtec to save fuel really, i'd honestly say though there's not much between the clio and dc5 fuel wise (but that might change when i fit my mugen ecu in a couple of weeks)