Civic Type R Engine !!

[Farrowv6]

Any1 got any pics of them and any1 know if it will fit in a Mk1 clio ??

[StevieG-09]

People are dumping these in mini's now aint they? So it should fit in a mk1.

[Farrowv6]

Thats what i was thinking !!

[172Ben]

There are hundreds on google.

Seriously are people just getting lazy?

[jamesp24]

Which one ? a K20

[Oldskoolbaby]

People are dumping these in mini's now aint they? So it should fit in a mk1.

Your dead right. I know a few people with these and they piss on pretty much all other fwd cars........CRAZY!! Shouldn't be to hard to fit to a big engine bay like a clio.

[caister]

They really arn't all there cut out to be

[Tav]

I'd say better than the 172/182 engine but not worth the trouble of transplanting.

[Oldskoolbaby]

They really arn't all there cut out to be

Lol If you give your car constant stick there's nothing that comes close to being as reliable. They've been ahead of everything for ages as far as stock N/A engines are concerned anyway. There are people fitting turbo's to them and getting stupid/unbeleivable power from them and reliably. I think I recall someone doing it to an S2000 and gettng well over 500bhp.....without even cracking the block open. Ive spent many thousands on engines but can't think of a much better 2 liter engine from the factory. Thats just my opinion though

I wouldn't complain if my car went like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj3LmIuovYQ

[caister]

I talking about the engine in stock form. IMO it lacks low down grunt and has to be driven way to hard to get the best out of it and the one my friend had was very thirsty.

However I do agree that as far as reliabilty goes theres nothing that can touch them. Theres a video on youtube of one of these running without oil and water for a very long time before failing.

[172Ben]

Any links to the video? Sounds interesting.

[Oldskoolbaby]

I talking about the engine in stock form. IMO it lacks low down grunt and has to be driven way to hard to get the best out of it and the one my friend had was very thirsty.

You do have a valid point with the low down grunt but this is the whole point of Vtec motors mate. Docile and easy to drive low down but with the peak torque/power well up the rev range for when you want it. It might feel like your driving them "way too hard" but this is what they are designed to do. Its like getting on the seat of a modern sports bike and complaining that you have to rev it to 14000 rpm to get the best from it.....thats the whole point of it.

[smitchell1]

Iv got an old max power mag indoors and some american guy is running 580hp out of a blown civic lump!!!

Reckons it can blow a nex viper away with ease????

[caister]

You do have a valid point with the low down grunt but this is the whole point of Vtec motors mate. Docile and easy to drive low down but with the peak torque/power well up the rev range for when you want it. It might feel like your driving them "way too hard" but this is what they are designed to do. Its like getting on the seat of a modern sports bike and complaining that you have to rev it to 14000 rpm to get the best from it.....thats the whole point of it.

But 90% of the time when you need the acceleration and mid gear torque you dont want to be changing down and reving the nuts off of it to achieve it. (Well I dont anyway) I know the clios not got the best torque curve in the world but its got enough low down to make it bearable for my daily motorway commute! I would love one of the old shape Type R's though.

[Turkish]

Lacking low down grunt? lol a 1*2 is hardly a rocketship "off cam"

[Martin_172]

compaired to a B series or K20 it is lol, ive yet to come up against a honda thats quicker than my 172 and ive had a blast with everything other than an s2k and a dc5

[Merk]

compaired to a B series or K20 it is lol, ive yet to come up against a honda thats quicker than my 172 and ive had a blast with everything other than an s2k and a dc5

Is your 172 standard? I've never had a problem with any RS clio since i've had my fn2, after about 90 or so anyway, off the mark I reckon a 172/182 would hump me though..

[Merk]

But 90% of the time when you need the acceleration and mid gear torque you dont want to be changing down and reving the nuts off of it to achieve it. (Well I dont anyway) I know the clios not got the best torque curve in the world but its got enough low down to make it bearable for my daily motorway commute! I would love one of the old shape Type R's though.

Theres a few members on here with 197's, had them rolling roaded and they've made something along the lines of 204bhp/ 144lb/ft torque... Which is basically the same as a k20 engine..

The whole point in a high revving civic is all about the cornering, you KNOW you can drop a gear coming up to a corner and you'll be miles off the limiter, it's very easy to keep in the peak power band due to the way the engine has been designed, I found it a lot more difficult in my 172..

[_Nero_]

I think I recall someone doing it to an S2000 and gettng well over 500bhp.....without even cracking the block open. Ive spent many thousands on engines but can't think of a much better 2 liter engine from the factory. Thats just my opinion though

Are you trying to say people have transplanted a Civic Type-R engine (K20a) into an S2000?

If you are saying that, why would you swap the 240bhp 2.0ltr 4-pot (F20c) in the S2K, for a 197bhp 2.0ltr 4 (K20a)?

If you reckon you can get 500bhp by strapping a turbo onto a stock F20c, your engine won't last 5 minutes. A guy tried this on S2Ki and ended up blowing it to bits and replacing all of the bits he should have uprated to begin with.

And the link you posted shows a mini with a B18 in it (from an ITR). The B16b was used in the old shape (JDM-only FK9 CTR).

Re OP: Civic EP3 - Engine is pretty solid, but gearboxes give up at ~300bhp.

[_Nero_]

compaired to a B series or K20 it is lol, ive yet to come up against a honda thats quicker than my 172 and ive had a blast with everything other than an s2k and a dc5

S2k is no quicker in a straight line than an EP3 (neither is the DC5 in real terms, only having +/- 20bhp extra). They shine in the corners though...